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#50 of 59 let's see the vehicle logs please by steve_ HOST

Feb 13, 2013 (2:47 pm)

"The New York Times has mounted a vigorous defense of its negative review of the Tesla Model S and the automaker's Supercharger stations, telling Edmunds "we will not pull our punches when reviewing cars."
 
The fight between Tesla and The New York Times raises privacy concerns for automakers and car reviewers.
 
Tesla's computer software in the car effectively allows it to track a reporter's movements in real time."
 
Fight Between Tesla and New York Times Raises Privacy Concerns

#51 of 59 Re: let's see the vehicle logs please [steve_] by gagrice

Feb 13, 2013 (4:19 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 13, 2013 2:47 pm)
That is exactly what the tax by the mile system will do with cars. It tracks every mile you drive to be able and charge for miles driven in a given area.
 
The tax would be based on mileage reports that could be made in a variety of ways, such as via smartphone app or global positioning system technology.
 
Other states, including Washington, have looked at per-mile charges. A Washington law that would charge electric car owners an annual fee goes into effect in February.
 
Oregon set up a task force in 2001 and did a pilot study in 2006, which raised privacy concerns — the government could track cars as they use private roads or leave the state.
 
http://www.katu.com/politics/Ore-to-consider-per-mile-tax-for-gas-sippers-185498- 072.html

#52 of 59 the plot thickens by steve_ HOST

Feb 14, 2013 (8:35 am)

Tesla Publishes Vehicle Logs in Disputed Test Drive, Calls for Probe
 

#53 of 59 Re: the plot thickens [steve_] by gagrice

Feb 14, 2013 (9:03 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 14, 2013 8:35 am)
The solution is simple. Use an external speed logging device and compare to what you get out of the Tesla black box. If they match up then Broder's review would be made up of less than accurate reporting. It would not be the first time the NYT has had questionable reporting.
 
That said the Tesla is not EVER going to be mainstream transportation. They are for fat cats with multiple cars in the stable.

#54 of 59 Re: the plot thickens [gagrice] by steve_ HOST

Feb 14, 2013 (10:51 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Feb 14, 2013 9:03 am)
True but mainstream cars already have lots of black box tech. And many are logging more than just the last ten seconds of a sensor reading before a crash I bet.

#55 of 59 your car is ratting you out by steve_ HOST

Mar 24, 2013 (12:25 pm)

"Try as you may to protect your privacy while driving, it's only going to get harder. The government is about to mandate installation of black-box accident recorders, a dumbed-down version of those found on airlines — that remember all the critical details leading up to a crash, from your car's speed to whether you were wearing a seat belt. The devices are already built into 96% of new cars.
 
Plus, automakers are on their way to developing "connected cars" that constantly crank out information about themselves to make driving easier and collisions preventable.
 
Privacy becomes an issue when data end up in the hands of outsiders who motorists don't suspect have access to it, or when the data are repurposed for reasons beyond those for which they were originally intended."
 
Tell-all cars put your driving business out in the open (Detroit Free Press)

#56 of 59 Re: your car is ratting you out [steve_] by fintail

Mar 24, 2013 (4:46 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 24, 2013 12:25 pm)
Make driving easier...the dumbing down continues.
 
I am sure law enforcement and the public sector in general can be trusted to behave ethically and responsibly with such data.
 
And even with such data, the bozos still won't sequence lights properly, just wait.

#57 of 59 Re: your car is ratting you out [steve_] by gagrice

Mar 24, 2013 (4:51 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 24, 2013 12:25 pm)
Just don't let your wife's divorce attorney get a hold of your black box.

#58 of 59 Re: your car is ratting you out [steve_] by srs_49

Mar 25, 2013 (8:00 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 24, 2013 12:25 pm)
Don't most cars and trucks contain EDR (Event Data Recorders) nowadays anyways? It it usually part of the air bag deployment system. I know my 2005 Dodge truck has one (the truck came with a separate notice to that effect), as does my 2009 Infiniti.
 
Does anyone know of any recent (last 5 years or so) behicles that don't have an EDR in them?
 
Ooops, sorry, just reread and saw your 96% figure.

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