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Black Box Data Recording

59 messages,  Last post on Mar 25, 2013 at 8:00 AM

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#46 of 59 And that is a protection for all of us... by iluvmysephia1

Dec 07, 2012 (11:21 pm)

"It appears that the law will assign ownership of EDR data to the car's owner or lessee. However, major exceptions will allow access by emergency responders and require the sharing of such information following a court order." I'm especially talking about the part I've put in bold there.
 
Am I right? Of course I am. To stave off unnecessary, frivolous and lascivious lawsuits related to crashes.

#47 of 59 Car Technology and Privacy by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Feb 12, 2013 (3:32 pm)

"We'd be remiss if we didn't point out that your car has in it one obvious piece of personal information with your home address: Your vehicle registration. There is nothing that stops a snoop with access to your car from opening your glovebox and seeing where you live. The fix is low-tech and easy: Lock your glovebox and make a habit of bringing your valet key with you when you dine out or take the car for service."
 
Top 5 Things Your Car Knows About You

#48 of 59 A local wreck... by bolivar

Feb 12, 2013 (7:05 pm)

Several months ago, a woman with a small child, on a very foggy morning, supposedly late taking her child to school, on a rural road, hit a lady turning out onto the road and killed her. She said she was going about 60mph. And she seemed to be saying the lady she hit did a 'rolling stop' in front of her. A few days ago the info from the 'air bag module' in her truck came 'back'. She was going 83mph when she hit the lady she killed. Or just before. It's my understanding these modules retain about the last 10 seconds of driving info.
 
I have no personal knowledge of this, this info is all from newspaper reports.

#49 of 59 Re: A local wreck... [bolivar] by srs_49

Feb 13, 2013 (5:16 am)

Replying to: bolivar (Feb 12, 2013 7:05 pm)
I think you have it right. Not sure if 10 seconds is the amount of history that is stored, but it's something like that.

#50 of 59 let's see the vehicle logs please by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Feb 13, 2013 (2:47 pm)

"The New York Times has mounted a vigorous defense of its negative review of the Tesla Model S and the automaker's Supercharger stations, telling Edmunds "we will not pull our punches when reviewing cars."
 
The fight between Tesla and The New York Times raises privacy concerns for automakers and car reviewers.
 
Tesla's computer software in the car effectively allows it to track a reporter's movements in real time."
 
Fight Between Tesla and New York Times Raises Privacy Concerns

#51 of 59 Re: let's see the vehicle logs please [steve_] by gagrice

Feb 13, 2013 (4:19 pm)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Feb 13, 2013 2:47 pm)
That is exactly what the tax by the mile system will do with cars. It tracks every mile you drive to be able and charge for miles driven in a given area.
 
The tax would be based on mileage reports that could be made in a variety of ways, such as via smartphone app or global positioning system technology.
 
Other states, including Washington, have looked at per-mile charges. A Washington law that would charge electric car owners an annual fee goes into effect in February.
 
Oregon set up a task force in 2001 and did a pilot study in 2006, which raised privacy concerns — the government could track cars as they use private roads or leave the state.
 
http://www.katu.com/politics/Ore-to-consider-per-mile-tax-for-gas-sippers-185498- 072.html

#52 of 59 the plot thickens by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Feb 14, 2013 (8:35 am)

Tesla Publishes Vehicle Logs in Disputed Test Drive, Calls for Probe
 

#53 of 59 Re: the plot thickens [steve_] by gagrice

Feb 14, 2013 (9:03 am)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Feb 14, 2013 8:35 am)
The solution is simple. Use an external speed logging device and compare to what you get out of the Tesla black box. If they match up then Broder's review would be made up of less than accurate reporting. It would not be the first time the NYT has had questionable reporting.
 
That said the Tesla is not EVER going to be mainstream transportation. They are for fat cats with multiple cars in the stable.

#54 of 59 Re: the plot thickens [gagrice] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Feb 14, 2013 (10:51 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Feb 14, 2013 9:03 am)
True but mainstream cars already have lots of black box tech. And many are logging more than just the last ten seconds of a sensor reading before a crash I bet.

#55 of 59 your car is ratting you out by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Mar 24, 2013 (12:25 pm)

"Try as you may to protect your privacy while driving, it's only going to get harder. The government is about to mandate installation of black-box accident recorders, a dumbed-down version of those found on airlines — that remember all the critical details leading up to a crash, from your car's speed to whether you were wearing a seat belt. The devices are already built into 96% of new cars.
 
Plus, automakers are on their way to developing "connected cars" that constantly crank out information about themselves to make driving easier and collisions preventable.
 
Privacy becomes an issue when data end up in the hands of outsiders who motorists don't suspect have access to it, or when the data are repurposed for reasons beyond those for which they were originally intended."
 
Tell-all cars put your driving business out in the open (Detroit Free Press)

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