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#35 of 60 Re: insurance company black box [steve_]
Nov 13, 2011 (3:29 pm)
True, I guess one would need to weigh the positives vs negatives. I don't know if I trust some career revenue collectors and insurance suits to be able to judge what kind of G force is evil and what is permissible, however.
I bet should it come to all that, that the insurance provided recorders somehow would become inadmissible as defense, just able to be used for prosecution
#36 of 60 I understand...
Nov 14, 2011 (6:02 am)
...these "black box" recording devices come with this label:
#37 of 60 Re: I understand... [lemko]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Nov 14, 2011 (6:44 am)
I think I've seen that on the Google search page. Facebook too.
#38 of 60 Re: I understand... [lemko]
Nov 14, 2011 (7:09 am)
Not sure about the warning label, but IIRC, when I took possession of my 2005 Dakota, one of the papers that came with the truck was a notice of the EDR, what it does, and how law enforcement and insurance entities could get their hands on it and the data it contains.
#39 of 60 Re: insurance company black box [fintail]
Nov 14, 2011 (9:12 am)
I'd never sign up for that. Too much of an open door for shenanigans - and with the behind the scenes link between ensurers and revenue enforcers, nothing good can come of it.
Not defending it but the Snapshot device only stays in your car for 30 days. Technically if you could be a really good boy for 30 days, you could get a good discount.
#41 of 60 80 percent of the car industry already does it
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
May 16, 2012 (6:36 pm)
"Congress now seems set on passing legislation that would make an Electronic Data Recorder (EDR) – the technical name for an automotive black box – required equipment on all new cars. And lawmakers also want to settle who owns the data on the devices, although that issue won’t be nearly as cut-and-dried."
As Congress Mulls Mandate on Car Black Boxes, Data Ownership Remains Unclear (Wired)
"As of 2011, GM vehicles as old as 1994 have accessible data, Ford vehicles as old as 2001 have accessible data, Chrysler vehicles as old as 2005 have accessible data, Toyota and Lexis vehicles as old as 2006 have accessible data, as well as some Isuzu, Fiat, Mitsubishi, Scion, Sterling, and Suzuki vehicles."
Busted! Your car's black box is spying, may be used against you in court (Computerworld)
#42 of 60 Re: 80 percent of the car industry already does it [steve_]
May 16, 2012 (6:51 pm)
I assume they mean Sterling trucks...
Time to snip some wires.
#43 of 60 Re: 80 percent of the car industry already does it [fintail]
May 17, 2012 (7:49 am)
Time to snip some wires
That's my inclination also. Though I think the existing EDRs are part of the air bag activation system. Snip a couple of wires and no air bag (which actually would be OK with me) or worse - accidental deployment!