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38 messages,  Last post on Mar 28, 2008 at 12:42 PM

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What is this discussion about? Acura RDX, Mitsubishi Outlander, Buick Enclave, Car Comparisons, SUV

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#29 of 38 Re: I think I am going with the outlander [alex789] by chelentano

Oct 30, 2007 (1:06 pm)

Replying to: alex789 (Oct 29, 2007 10:02 pm)
Actually Outlander does have LED tail lights standard as well, and you can get OEM rear view camera and parking sensors installed by Mitsibishi dealer.
 
The AWD Outlander XLS with navigation, sunroof, bluetooth, fast key, keyless start has MSRP of $30k
 
According to Edmunds.com, base AWD EX35 + navigation, sunroof, bluetooth, fast key, keyless start has MSRP of $46k.
 
Of course the EX35 has better interior, more horses and a couple of features such as adaptive front lightning and bi-xenon autoleveling headlights (against regular Outlander xenon headlights), but I am not sure if it all worth extra $16K considering that with EX35 you still getting outdated 5-speed transmission, no music server, shorter warranty, bad mileage (15/22) and premium gasoline.

#30 of 38 New CR-V = EX35..?? by wwest

Oct 30, 2007 (1:19 pm)

Well....??

#31 of 38 Re: New CR-V = EX35..?? [wwest] by dodo2

Oct 30, 2007 (7:19 pm)

Replying to: wwest (Oct 30, 2007 1:19 pm)
You cannot reasonably compare the basic transportation paradigm, the CRV, to the EX35.

#32 of 38 Re: New CR-V = EX35..?? [dodo2] by wwest

Nov 01, 2007 (10:38 am)

Replying to: dodo2 (Oct 30, 2007 7:19 pm)
Isn't that a bit like saying I can't compare the Camry with the ES350..??

#33 of 38 Re: New CR-V = EX35..?? [wwest] by casolorz

Nov 01, 2007 (11:23 am)

Replying to: wwest (Nov 01, 2007 10:38 am)
Not really because at least the Camry and ES350 are from the same family.
The CR-V and EX35 shouldn't share anything, now the CR-V and RDX might share something and the EX35 I guess might share stuff with the Rogue.

#34 of 38 Re: New CR-V = EX35..?? [casolorz] by chelentano

Nov 01, 2007 (12:04 pm)

Replying to: casolorz (Nov 01, 2007 11:23 am)
And on CRV V6 is not even an option

#35 of 38 Re: New CR-V = EX35..?? [casolorz] by wwest

Nov 01, 2007 (6:26 pm)

Replying to: casolorz (Nov 01, 2007 11:23 am)
Oops, so sorry, I was actually thinking Rogue...

#36 of 38 Stay away from Honda products by octagon3

Jan 20, 2008 (10:00 am)

Was reading your posts and couldn't resist to chime in. We purchased an Acura CLS in 2000 - mainly because we wanted to have the car for a long time with minium problems. We are now on our 4th transmission!!! Honda has tried to keep this one secret, but it is strating to come out. From what I hear from many mechanics (including the dealer's) this is across all Honda lines. It is a continuing problem. They say they changed the transmissions ion 2004, but the mechanics are telling me different - they are seeing alot of them having problems. Also, we recently had a new one - motor mounts. The dealer first tried to tell us this was a normal maintenance item. Since I have owned more than 20 vehicles, and never had this problem, I had a feeling they were full of it. Then I went online I googled (yeah, I know, it's a verb now) "honda acura motor mount" - there were more than a few hits When I contacted Acura, they first gave me the same line as the dealer. When I pointed out the unusual nature of this, and the number of problems online, they told me it had to do with a high torque engine, then it was the bad transmission (how's that for a stupid response - one defect leads to another). After "befriending" the Acura "investigator" he broke down and admitted this was a design defect and he was giving me lines from a corporate script. They will most likely be quietly paying for these in the near future - I've already filed compalints with state and federal authorities. As I said - stay away from Honda and Acura. There are a lot more problems I could go over - Honda is very good on damage control.

#37 of 38 Re: Stay away from Honda products [octagon3] by mik3ymomo

Mar 27, 2008 (6:31 pm)

Replying to: octagon3 (Jan 20, 2008 10:00 am)
Honda and Acura are on top in JD power and assoc list across the board. While a few models might have had an issue I think that you cant go wrong with Honda or Acura and Hyundia and mitsu are at the bottom of the lists. So you decide.

#38 of 38 Re: Stay away from Honda products [mik3ymomo] by chelentano

Mar 28, 2008 (12:42 pm)

Replying to: mik3ymomo (Mar 27, 2008 6:31 pm)
I would care less for JDPower ratings. They are not independent, but they get paid by car manufacturers for advertising, unlike Consumer Reports. According to Consumer Reports, Mitsubishi Outlander ranked best for 2008 predicted reliability, beating Toyota RAV, Honda CR-V and everything else in the category.
 
Small SUV
Best: Honda Element, Mitsubishi Outlander
Worst: Dodge Nitro, Jeep Wrangler (four-door)
 
Midsize SUV
Best: Toyota Highlander, Honda Pilot
Worst: Land Rover Range Rover, Land Rover Range Rover Sport
 
http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071017/BIZ/710170334

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