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125 messages, Last post on May 06, 2009 at 8:52 AM
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Replying to: sdc2 (Feb 06, 2008 6:54 am) If you need more time than 20 years, so you don't feel like a "guinea pig", then you should probably note that the concept for the design is more than 500 years old . Where as the concept of a conventional automatic transmission with gears has only been around for about 100 years. As is true with all new concepts and technology, there will inevitably be nay-sayers. Eventually everyone comes around and starts thinking similarily though. Which is probably why both Honda and Toyota are scrambling to release north american versions of their own CVT transmissions. Oh, and some reasons to go for a CVT (in any manufacturer): 1. Fuel efficient 2. Great power from the engine straight to wheels without a gearbox dictating gears (1st gear MUST come before 2nd, which MUST come before 3rd, etc...) 3. Great track record (Nissan has one of the lowest warranty-cost indexes with regards to drivetrain of any major automobile manufacturer) 4. And finally, although some people may not believe it, great towing funtionality in a 4 cylinder (when using the paddle shifters or "manual" shift mode to put the transmission into a synthesized 1st gear). ~ Hope this helps! |
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Replying to: sdc2 (Feb 07, 2008 11:30 am) |
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Replying to: rkoko164 (Feb 09, 2008 5:31 pm) One thing nobody seems to have mentioned is that the CVT is mechanically simplier than these new 5 and 6 speed 'traditional' autos and therefore shouldn't cost 4 grand to get them fixed in the unlikely event they do
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Replying to: blufz1 (Jan 12, 2008 7:10 am) In our case it actually wasn't. We could open the hatch of our 2002 CR-V (Swinging Tailgate) in our garage, but couldn't open the liftgate of our 2000 Odyssey minivan; the van's hatch would hit the bottom portion of the raised garage door. Different strokes for different folks. |
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Did everyone see this? Click Here to see the five-way comparison of the Forester, Vue, CR-V, Rogue, and RAV4 4-cylinder models. |
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Replying to: captain2 (May 13, 2008 7:02 am)
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Replying to: bdyment (May 22, 2008 4:23 am) Of course there have forums like this are bad places to be making any assumptions about any car's problems or reliabilities simply because folks that have a problem with anything are going to all over these forums looking for help or maybe just to vent. Nissan has produced and sold hundreds of thousands of CVTs and at least tens of thousands of Muranos so equipped for years now. Of course there will be a few folks out there that have had problems with it and I could certainly find a lot of those folks complaining quite loudly (and often) on a Murano forum entitled 'transmission issues'. A better source of info. on the 'success' of the CVT might be consumer statistical compilations (CR for example) and/or any records of CVT related recalls and/or TSBs. Or if Nissan were abandoning the CVT (because of warranty costs). On this basis (and others) I think you'll find that the Nissan CVT has been a remarkable success, been quite trouble free, and also something that Nissan is expanding to more and more of their vehicles including now the Rogue which essentially uses the Altima's engine/tranny - a car they sell a mere 300,000 of during the year. BTW, I think I said that the CVT shouldbe cheaper to repair (because of its mechanical simplicity). If it isn't - I wonder if that is really a function of the 3rd party independents not being 'able' (or trained) to do it yet or that these newer 5 -6 speed + conventional trannies are dictating that the era of the $1500.00 tranny rebuild is over. Many dealers will generally farm out their tranny work to independents - if Nissan dealers are having to do it themselves (or there are few qualified to do it) it would not surprise me that it could get quite expensive. Obviously the 'jury' must still be consideredto be out on the CVT, after all it has really only been around since 2003 in the Murano- but any implications that the tranny has been anything but a success I think is incorrect.
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Replying to: captain2 (May 22, 2008 8:25 am) I don't feel like doing the search, but for anybody interested, nissan has said several times that their xtronic CVT is MORE RELIABLE than the auto trannies they used to use. even though some people have had problems with their cvt, not as many have had problems as had problems with nissans auto transmissions.
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Replying to: jd10013 (May 23, 2008 6:50 pm) and given that they now use the CVT in most of their vehicles - you would expect them to say something different?  I think though that - within this thread - the 'traditional' electronic 5 speed in the RAV4 V6 vs. the CVT in the Rogue, I think you'll find more complainers on the Toyota websites despite that V6 being about the best engine on the planet.
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Replying to: captain2 (May 27, 2008 8:11 am) |
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