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Nissan Rogue vs Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV4

125 messages,  Last post on May 06, 2009 at 8:52 AM

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Rogue, Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: RAV4 V6 vs Rogue [tamoshanter] by sdc2
Feb 08, 2008 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: tamoshanter (Feb 08, 2008 1:57 pm)

Yep, transmissions can be problematic, no doubt. Hopefully the CVTs will ultimately prove to be more reliable in the long run, that would be nice.
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Re: RAV4 V6 vs Rogue [sdc2] by jd10013
Feb 08, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: sdc2 (Feb 08, 2008 2:54 pm)

you guys do realize the cvt has been used in the murano for over 6 years now dont' you? the long term reliability on the cvt is not an unknown, and they actually do better, long term reliablilty. wise, than nissans auto trannies. Having proven their reliability in the larger, more HP, more torque V-6 murano is a lot of the reason nissan started putting them in everything.
 
nissans cvt are anything but new or untested. Nissan has invested HUGE amounts of money in cvt, and would not have switched over to a faulty trans.
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More competition!! by bobalbe1
Feb 09, 2008 (9:30 am)
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It will be interesting to see how the Rogue, rav4, rx7 and crv are going to stuck up against the new toyota VENZA coming up this fall, For what I have read it is bigger, sportier, good looking and est. price btw. $23 and $32k. The only thing they haven't show yet is fuel economy, but if is in the upper 20s it will be hard to beat.
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Re: RAV4 V6 vs Rogue [jd10013] by sdc2
Feb 09, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: jd10013 (Feb 08, 2008 7:20 pm)

"Nissan has invested HUGE amounts of money in cvt, and would not have switched over to a faulty trans."
That doesn't mean much...manufacturers have invested HUGE amounts of money in many things that have turned out to be mistakes in the long run...
 
Time will tell...maybe my next vehicle will have a CVT.
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Re: RAV4 V6 vs Rogue [sdc2] by rkoko164
Feb 09, 2008 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: sdc2 (Feb 09, 2008 4:50 pm)

Nissan has been using the CVT for a couple of decades overseas.
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Re: RAV4 V6 vs Rogue [sdc2] by jd10013
Feb 09, 2008 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: sdc2 (Feb 09, 2008 4:50 pm)

That doesn't mean much
 
yes it does. it means nissan has spent the money to improve on each version, and thoroughly tested it. in other words, they didn't just design something on paper then start throwing it in cars.
 
Time will tell
 
time has already told. they've been used for long enough for any serious design or engineering flaws to have shown up. They are more reliable than the automatic transmissions nissan used/uses. it's not even debateble anymore. the technology is neither new nor unproven.
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Re: More competition!! [bobalbe1] by steevo
Feb 27, 2008 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: bobalbe1 (Feb 09, 2008 9:30 am)

Venza will be well over 30000 if equipped like a loaded Rogue or CRV.
It is a Toyota, after all!
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Re: More competition!! [steevo] by bobalbe1
Feb 28, 2008 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: steevo (Feb 27, 2008 3:58 pm)

I don't know!. They can't price it too high if they want to sell. Anything over 35k will put it into fully loaded Highlander or Murano territory. That's why I think is going to be interesting to see how aggressive toyota is willing to get.
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Re: cvt reliability by dcwestby
Apr 17, 2008 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: bobalbe1 (Feb 28, 2008 6:18 pm)

I'm pondering a rogue myself due to the cvt.
 
Why?
 
I was converted to the church of the cvt with the Ford Freestyle. Granted you couldnt take immediately off like a rocket on steroids with it, but you could certainly raise eyebrows having a 4000+lb vehicle suddenly go from 10mph to30 or 40+... It certainly had a nice growl to it accelerating, but all in all, it was heavy for its engine.
 
See, reason I went for a cvt vehicle is 90 tempo tranny froze in first gear and such... I like the idea behind the cvt. one might need to get used to the lack of "proper" gears, but just imagine the nightmare that is the semi-truck automatic transmission. Far too much could go wrong there at any time.. Like regular geared autos. After all, suddenly finding yourself restricted to one gear pulling away from a stoplight is rather irritating.
 
Currently, I have a Forester, and at times I tend to force that into a psuedo-cvt-ness, not that it works that well. Time and again, I'm reminded by the acceleration lag of the Forester that it simply is not a cvt.
 
I do wonder however, at the lack of comparisons between Forester and the Rogue, after all, they do seem to be in similar classes.
 
How is headroom in the Rogue? with/without sunroof?
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Re: cvt reliability [dcwestby] by tamoshanter
Apr 18, 2008 (3:36 am)
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Replying to: dcwestby (Apr 17, 2008 7:37 pm)

i've had my 2008 rogue, AWD, SL, since 12/20 and have already put almost 16,000 on it. i've had no problems with the CVT and it gives me excellent acceleration for a 4 banger. it took me a while to get used to the sound of the engine accelerating (sounded like my clutch slipping), but i also use the paddle shifters or manual shifter (although the "gear ratios" are hypothetical) and enjoy the feel of having control of downshifting and upshifting (i've always preferred manuals over autos). the ride is smooth for a short wheelbase, BOSE stereo with bluetooth is great. not as much room behind the passengers in the cargo area (of course, i was spoiled with my grand caravan), but sufficient enough for me, as my kids are now off to college, so my wife and i don't taxi around children like we used to. i'm almost 6' and have no problem with head room, even with the moonroof, which i love.

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