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#106 of 125 Re: Finally decided to get Rogue [pitkeys] by captain2 Jun 13, 2008 (11:41 am)
Replying to: pitkeys (Jun 12, 2008 7:46 pm) I've found several times that I'll be +20 on the speed limit in no time. Amen! I think the reason for this might just be the CVT, as it 'seems' to be slipping when in fact it's not slipping at all. The 4 banger RAV (and FTM the CRV) sound like they are laboring while tranny gears are (more traditionally) 'held' into the higher rpm ranges, the CVT OTH simply changes 'underneath' a more constant but usually lower engine speed and magically we are are driving 80 instead of 60. The CVT as I said is a bit of an adjustment - but one I think I'm going to like Replies to this message: pitkeys (Jun 14, 2008 9:20 am)
#107 of 125 Re: Finally decided to get Rogue [captain2] by pitkeys Jun 14, 2008 (9:20 am)
Replying to: captain2 (Jun 13, 2008 11:41 am) "but one I think I'm going to like" Definitely!   The highway near our houe has just been repaved and it's skippy how quiet the Rogue gets up to sped on the new surface, as well as how smoothly.   Agreed--the CVT does take some getting used to. Sometimes it reminds me of a hefty 4-cycle outboard .   BTW: Some other discoveries:   1) The rear window and tailgate, maybe because of the angle, don't get plastered with dust like my old RAV or my wife's FIT, even with the spoiler vents. Maybe 'cuz the angle's more slanted on the Rogue. That's a big plus here in rangeland.   2) The RAV had the plus of extension sun visors, but that's fixable on the Rogue.
#108 of 125 Re: Finally decided to get Rogue [captain2] by sdc2 Jun 16, 2008 (5:47 am)
Replying to: captain2 (Jun 13, 2008 10:47 am) Sounds like you were looking at a Limited...I paid $24.8K for a V6 AWD RAV4 Base model with a few options...went through a fleet dealer and had an incoming RAV spoken for before it even got to the dealer, so they had no chance to apply "paint sealant" or any of that other crap dealers like to improve their profit margin with... Replies to this message: mrbizness1 (Jun 16, 2008 1:48 pm) captain2 (Jun 16, 2008 2:47 pm) sdc2 (Jun 17, 2008 6:06 am) captain2 (Jun 17, 2008 8:08 am)
#109 of 125 Re: Finally decided to get Rogue [sdc2] by mrbizness1 Jun 16, 2008 (1:48 pm)
Replying to: sdc2 (Jun 16, 2008 5:47 am) "so they had no chance to apply "paint sealant" or any of that other crap dealers like to improve their profit margin with.."   wow, the dealers are still trying to push paint sealant. Unbelievable!!!
#110 of 125 Re: Finally decided to get Rogue [sdc2] by captain2 Jun 16, 2008 (2:47 pm)
Replying to: sdc2 (Jun 16, 2008 5:47 am) definitely a Ltd. - with a sticker of $31k WITHOUT the DVD system but did have everything else - what would have made it 'equal' to the Rogue SL AWD w/ premium , leather, and moonroof. Except of course for the bigger engine in the RAV. The extra Toyota charges down here are by the distributor not the dealer so therefore all cars released have this crappola 'port installed'. They seem to only do this on 'popular' vehicles - surprise surprise. In this case another $1500 I didn't want to spend, and something I believe unique to Toyotas bought in this area (the Gulf Coast) and in the Southeast - the homes of the only two remaining independent Toyota distributors. A practice Toyota corporate needs to police because in this case it helped make the RAV ridiculously more expensive than my full boat Rogue. It's hard enough to get a Toyota dealer down on anything and inflating the price with ostensibly worthless 'option packs' only makes things worse. The 05 Avalon I have incidentally was also priced in this manner and has (IMO) the best drivetrain in it that's available these days. This should not be construed as an indictment of anything other than Toyota's marketing practices and certainly NOT the RAV, which I may have been willing to spend a bit more for (for that V6) - just not 5 big ones. Replies to this message: sdc2 (Jun 17, 2008 6:06 am) captain2 (Jun 17, 2008 8:08 am)
#111 of 125 Re: Finally decided to get Rogue [captain2] by sdc2 Jun 17, 2008 (6:06 am)
Replying to: captain2 (Jun 16, 2008 2:47 pm) Yeah, there is little doubt that Toyota's distribution system smacks of "because we can"...I wouldn't pay that extortion fee either. Enjoy your Rogue! Replies to this message: captain2 (Jun 17, 2008 8:08 am)
#112 of 125 Re: Finally decided to get Rogue [sdc2] by captain2 Jun 17, 2008 (8:08 am)
Replying to: sdc2 (Jun 17, 2008 6:06 am) there is little doubt that Toyota's distribution system smacks of "because we can"... exactly, and to be fair I've experienced the same thing at Honda dealers in the past, but not nearly so much at Nissan - maybe if they (Toyota and Honda) come to understand precisely how many folks like me that there are that have this problem with being gouged in this particular manner. People that spend the extra coin for Toyota products expect them to be generally higher in price and are also usually rewarded with higher resale values that can mitigate that higher initial price - however these 'option packs' whether it be by the dealer or the distributor is nothing but very thinly disguised profiteering - why it is so irritating. As you say 'because they can'. All 3 of the particular vehicles in this discussion are good choices, but it seems to be Toyota that WANTS to get me as POed as possible. So much so, that it actually makes me feel better to know that Toyotas didn't get my $25k!
#113 of 125 Re: Finally decided to get Rogue [pitkeys] by thomasw98 Jun 18, 2008 (1:30 pm)
Replying to: pitkeys (Jun 10, 2008 8:43 am) Having had a RAV 4 V/6 Sport and now a Rogue SL AWD (with Premium pkg):    1) Rogue rides much better, not as "busy" as the RAV. Handles tighter. Wind noise seems much less at 65-70 MPH in Rogue. Road noise also. Rogue much better in crosswinds...[cut]   Excellent comparison! Thanks pitkeys. Replies to this message: pitkeys (Jun 18, 2008 4:51 pm)
#114 of 125 Re: Finally decided to get Rogue [thomasw98] by pitkeys Jun 18, 2008 (4:51 pm)
Replying to: thomasw98 (Jun 18, 2008 1:30 pm) Hope it helps, Thomas.   Each time I get in the Rogue it just feels better--at rest and moving. Perhaps a wimpy comment (certainly very subjective), but in 50+ years of owning/racing/rallying cars, if I don't feel a sweet spot (and look like that each time you eyeball it), then it'll wear on me in time, more than cars normally do. Each time I get in one, I like the reinforcement that I spent the dough OK.   Try to rent one of each that you're considering. Spend a couple of days with each and see what's worth the long term obligation.
#115 of 125 Honda's "maintenance minder" - Rogue have anything similar? by art_vandelay Jul 24, 2008 (6:10 am)
I love the "maintenance minder" on the CR-V and other Hondas... does the Rogue have any similar system, or do you have to remember to do routine maintenance at specified intervals without idiot lights to remind you? Replies to this message: danjay13 (Jul 26, 2008 8:16 am)

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