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recall by podunk503
Nov 25, 2006 (7:59 pm)
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speaking of the ball joint recall, we recently took ours in to get new balljoints fina and dandy. but, before we had that done i asked do balljoints have anything to do with steering? are there signs that your balljoints are bad through the steering wheel? his answer was no. reading some of these posts it seems as though he is incorrect. after having the balljoints replaced we still have kind of like an intermittent clunking in our steering as if the suspension parts are not working well together. what do you think? thank you.
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transmission problems with 2003 jeep liberty by darlross
Nov 26, 2006 (6:34 am)
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After experiencing a strange vibration in the rear of the jeep the dealer took it for a test drive with me and said he couldn't tell if it was the transmission or the engine. So he did a kind of brake test, I don't know why and then took it for another test drive with another mechanic. When he returned he said he thought it was the transmission and I should bring it in the following monday, this was a Friday afternoon. He said I could drive it and if it did the skipping thing to either accelerate or let off the gas. I live 2 miles from the dealer and the transmission failed on the way home, had to have it towed back to the dealer. They had to replace the fan and a converter and some other stuff. It only has 43,000 miles so it was covered under the 7/70 warranty and I had to pay $100 deductible and rent a car for a week.
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Re: recall [podunk503] by farout
Dec 02, 2006 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: podunk503 (Nov 25, 2006 7:59 pm)

Unless you misunderstood, the ball joints most certainly do have something to do with the steering. You need to go to a 5Star dealer, even Dodge can service your Jeep. Someone has spoofed you royally,
 
Farout
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Re: recall [farout] by siberia
Dec 16, 2006 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: farout (Dec 02, 2006 4:14 pm)

Farout is absolutely right, Podunk503.
 
However, it is possible for the type of ball joints that are installed on the Liberty to be out of tolerance and not feel much of anything on the steering. The reverse is also true. It is possible for this ball joint to be in tolerance and dry producing sticking an clunking. I had a clunk that went away after I replaced my ball joints. Another source of clunk is loose engine mounts - not much of a problem and easy to cure - and, though not related to steering, can occur when steering.
 
Your post, Podunk, leads me to the conclusion that there is either something else wrong with your steering or the ball joints were not actually replaced. Is it possible the dealer measured the play in the ball joints and they were within spec so they just signed off on them as replaced? I sure hope not.
 
This makes me think that anyone getting ball joints replaced under recall should take a good look at their old joints to make sure that nice clean new parts are there after the work is done. I so want to be wrong on this one.
#50 of 75
2002 Jeep-L Lower Ball Joints Recall by northerner2
Jan 10, 2007 (4:33 am)
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I own a 2002 Jeep Liberty (115 000 km), had the front end lower ball joints replaced last June(109 000 km), before the recall, at my expense. Yesterday the dealership re-replaced the lower ball joints again due to the recall. Asked them to have a quick look as there is a clunking noise in the front end. Apparently after hours of "on the hoist", "off the hoist" and my $100 bucks later, no resolution but only suspect of the "upper ball joints" and a quote of $750 CDN for replacement? Is it possible that the recalled lower balljoints damaged my "upper ball joints" leaving me with a clunking noise?
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problems by jezzabell
Jan 31, 2007 (8:15 pm)
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I own a 2003 liberty and am dealing with steering issues, when I turn corners it feels like my power steering is going out. There is no noise related to this and it doesn't matter if the car is warm or cold. Could the recall on ball joints be the problem??????? I know the recall facts said loss of steering but to me that could mean a few different things.
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Re: problems [jezzabell] by siberia
Feb 01, 2007 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: jezzabell (Jan 31, 2007 8:15 pm)

Hi Jezzabell,
 
I'm guessing that you have around 45k miles on your 2003 Libby. The answer to your question is maybe yes. My steering improved after my ball joints were replaced. If your Libby is steering hard because the ball joints are starting to fail, it is very important that you get them replaced or at least checked immediately. Complete ball joint failure on a Liberty is very dangerous!
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Re: problems [siberia] by jezzabell
Feb 01, 2007 (10:12 pm)
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Replying to: siberia (Feb 01, 2007 10:02 am)

thanks for the input, I actually brought it in to the dealership today, they said the ball joints were fine so they couldn't replace them yet because they have a waiting list, but offered to change my power steering pump for $500 dollars, the part is under $150 so my husband will do it himself. We will see if that is really the problem or if they are scammers, no offense if you are a mechanic, but we all know how it goes.
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Re: problems [jezzabell] by siberia
Feb 03, 2007 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: jezzabell (Feb 01, 2007 10:12 pm)

Jezzabell,
 
Glad to hear that your ball joints are okay. When a power steering pump fails it either causes hard steering, leaks oil or makes noise - sometimes all three. Fascinates me how something that pumps oil for a living can wear out. Must have been some contamination during manufacture.
 
When a Liberty ball joint fails it can be catastrophic since the ball can actually pull out of the socket dropping the vehicle on the ground. Some owners who had this happen reported some warning before the actual event. They reported creaking and popping noises when steering, such as pulling into a parking place, right before the failure. One owner reported ending up out in a field (luckily right side up) after failure at highway speed. Stay safe.
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Re: Ball Joint Problems by jpdriver
Mar 28, 2007 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: siberia (Feb 03, 2007 6:34 am)

I was having the symptomatic popping/knocking noise (under the rear) when steering full right some days ago, and brought it right into the dealer. Reportedly, the bushings in the control arms are suspected, a solution estimated at some 400$ and change. Thanks to the above posts, am having the lower ball joints looked into as well - if, in fact, they aren't the real problem to begin with.

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