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Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck
#10 of 577 Well... [andrew9]
Dec 20, 2006 (6:31 pm)
All right. I can understand that.
By the way, mschmal, that second website is Ford made. Unless it gives actual facts (horespower ratings, towing facts) It usually isn't true. Afterall, just showing you something they've already laid out probablty ain't. They could switch the parts to make it look like Ford's is the best, and their number one competitor's is the worst.
And on the Frame comparison, it doesn't even try to show the the competition's frames,just little cutouts of who knows what.
If you want comparisons, go to somewhere nonbiased not a car company owned place.
#11 of 577 Frame Facts
Dec 26, 2006 (9:33 am)
So you are are saying that Chevy does not use a C channel frame? and that Ford does not use Hydroformed Fully Boxed Frame?
The Tundra is an unproven commodity. Max production for Toyota is about 250k to 300k per year. I don't think Toyota will be able to steal to many customers with that kind of capacity. In the end, if the Toyota is better, it won't be enough better to justify paying the premium that the Toyota dealers will likely demand.
Watch the Silver Creek road test video.
#12 of 577 Spec's for Fullsize Pickups 2007
Dec 26, 2006 (8:29 pm)
Here are some spec's for the Fullsize truck class for 2007.
Ford F150 300hp/365 lbft tor. 9500 lb towing capacity
Chevy Silverado 315hp/ 338 lbft tor. 10,500 lb towing capacity
Dodge Ram 345hp/375 lbft tor. 9000 lb towing capacity
Toyota Tundra 381hp/405 lbft tor. 10,800 lb towing capacity
Nissan Titan 317hp/ 385 lbft tor. 9500 lb towing capacity
Ford F150(4x2) 2090 lbs
Chevy Silverado (4x2) 2150 lbs
Dodge Ram (4x2) 2200 lbs
Toyota Tundra (4x2) TBA
Nissan Titan (4x2) 1890 lbs
As you can see Chevy and Toyota have the two best towing trucks, while the Dodge Ram has the least along with the Ford F150 and the Nissan Titan.For payload capacities the Dodge Ram has the best. While the Nissan Titan somehow struggles to carry large loads. Also Chevy seems to produce the least amount of torque. NOTE: For Toyota Tundra the horsepower and torque numbers are rumors. If you would like to see for yourself go to wikipedia.com and search for the Toyota Tundra, then scroll down to second generation and it will have the numbers for only the 5.7 Liter.
To what I can see in 2007 the Toyota Tundra, Chevy Silverado, and Dodge Ram will sell well. The others will struggle a bit.
#13 of 577 bunch of crap
Jan 07, 2007 (10:53 pm)
I test drove a ford and after the test drive my back was stiff. The seats are horrible and don't even get me started about the slow tell me when you get to 60 engine. Payload means nothing if it can't continue to take the beating and a 1/2 ton ford will always crumble. Now take a f-250 or 350 and they are some serious work trucks, I know from experience on the ranch.
#14 of 577 best selling?
Feb 23, 2007 (8:56 pm)
F series has been best selling for 20 + years, but when the new Super Duty trucks came out in '99, there were a couple years the F250/F350's combined sold more than F150.
The SD looked so much better than the F150, that a lot of Ford fans moved up a class from what they needed. Was a good deal for Ford too, SD had more profit, and was/is a good truck. The bigger brakes, tires, etc. lasted longer in service rated for a 1/2 ton so maintenace was less for the owner too.
#15 of 577 F-150 is done unless........
Feb 24, 2007 (1:41 am)
Ford, can match GM and Toyota in powertrain and fit and finish. They better get those "Hurricane" engines out ASAP along with interior material technology. I'm praying for them almost as much as I do for GM. The Big 2 might be all that's left for me to cheer for with Chrysler going in the toilet.
#16 of 577 Just a Matter of Time!
Feb 25, 2007 (9:55 am)
Like we say on the farm, "brand loyalty is good, but sometimes people are just stupid"!
Based on what I currently see, I suspect Toyota will dominate in the near future. They have the best handle on manufacturing and quality. And they sell with the highest profit margin (which strengthens the health of the company).
I've always had Ford pick-ups on the farm and they have served me well. However the 6.0 diesel is a disaster with no replacement.
As far as weights go, who cares. Load'em up until the bumper drags then shovel a scoop of manure out and go!
#17 of 577 How much longer?
Feb 28, 2007 (12:17 pm)
Till they quit producing them
#18 of 577 Re: How much longer? [joel0622]
Mar 01, 2007 (6:04 am)
The F-150 SuperCrew came in 5th out of 5 in this months' Car & Driver half-ton pickup comparison. Chevy came in first and beat out both Titan (2nd) and the new Tundra (3rd).
#19 of 577 Re: Yeah right... [andrew9]
Apr 03, 2007 (7:51 pm)
Proof is in the pudding. I have a 2004 F150 4x4 with 127,000 miles. Great ride, interior is perfect and no problems. That doesn't include tires, brakes. Try one you'll like it.