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Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck
#3 of 577 BLINK BLINK
by mschmal
Dec 06, 2006 (2:27 pm)
Wishful thinking Silverado21.
The General is the king of bean counting...
LOVE those drum brakes on the new Trucks thats real modern.
Talk about crude interiors, the GMs give you 2 choices. Faux and Cheap.
F-150 gives you a choice of 5 different interior designs to choose from.
Better Design? NOT.
the new GMs have the WORST crash test rating of any full size pickup. http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=70
More towing? F-150s can tow upto 10,500 same as the Chevy.
Plus you can get an F-150 with a payload of 3,000! I think the max payload on an Chevy is about 1,800.
Talk about build, visit http://www.thetruthabouttrucks.com. Check out the clip that shows the Chevy has NO front structure once you take off the fenders...not to mention the WEAKest frame of a fullsize truck.
As for a few years down the road? Check out this article: http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06/hydraulichybrid.html
Yeah I'm sure peeps will be lining up to buy gas guzzlin' Silverados once the Hybrid F-150 is available.
Mark
#4 of 577 Re: BLINK BLINK [mschmal]
by iqbaldhillon2
Dec 09, 2006 (12:00 pm)
I'm sorry my friend did you say a 3,000 lb payload, or are you just drunk. The F150 is a half-ton pickup it can barely haul 2000 lbs. Even compare the F150 here at Edmunds. The Dodge Ram has the highest payload capacity which is about 2400 lbs my friend. Next is the Toyota Tundra at 2085 lb payload, then it's the Silverado/Sierra at 2010 lbs, then the F150 at 1950 lbs, and last and the least the Nissan Titan 1745 lbs. Right now the Dodge Ram 1500 has the best payload, I think the New Tundra can get about the same as the Dodge Ram (maybe a bit less) just watch by next year either the Silverado/Sierra, or the Tundra will be the best.
#5 of 577 Re: BLINK BLINK [iqbaldhillon2]
by kcram HOST
Dec 09, 2006 (1:22 pm)
Actually, you can get F150s with 3000+ payloads. The Regular Cab 8-foot bed 4x2 with the HD Payload Package and 5.4L V8 has a GVWR of 8200 and a payload of 3060.
kcram - Pickups Host
Dec 17, 2006 (12:29 pm)
You wanna talk about fake, huh? The wood in the Lariat F-150's. The wood in the Dogde and Chevrolet/GMC altleast looks like real wood. Towing? The only way to get the Max is a regular cab 4x2. SuperCrew 2x4 (what the most people will buy) Tows at most 9,500. The Crew Cab 2x4 Silverado tows the max 10,500.
5 different interiors? They all look the same. And all the seats except the King Ranch's are solid hard. And the fit and finish on all Ford products are horrible. At the delership I got in the F-150 and some of the plastic wasn't applied right on the doors(had large gaps on one side and overlapped on the other.) I can't even fit in the back seat of one and I'm 5'9"!
They don't even offer a normal regular cab. In stead they offer a Access cab that looks like a bus.
I can tell you what the F-150 really is,
.
#7 of 577 Re: Yeah right... [silverado21]
by andrew9
Dec 17, 2006 (9:05 pm)
Hey Silverado,
Its sounds like you're having a difficult time accepting the fact that the F-150 is clearly a far superior truck than the GM. I would be upset too if I spent my money on anything other than a Ford...
Long live Ford F-150
Dec 20, 2006 (3:17 pm)
Silverado is partially right, atleast in towing. Towing, payload, and power are the most of any half- ton pickup out there, atleast until the new Tundra comes out. I don't now to much about the interiors though.
If the Nissan and Toyota can take enough can take enough sales from Ford, Chevrolet could slip past and take the #1 spot. But they could also take sales away from the Chevrolet in the process.
Who knows what could happen in the future, but all I know is to wait and find out what happens in the future. Oh, and andrew9, what Ford product do you actually own?
#9 of 577 Re: Well... [robert73]
by andrew9
Dec 20, 2006 (5:57 pm)
2006 F150 FX4 super crew, leather interior.
-I should mention however, that I do also own a chevy suburban and love it. I have nothing against chevy, its just that I think the f150 is a better truck. The frame rigidity, outside frame shock mounts, brakes, and quite ride were all selling points for me.
#10 of 577 Well... [andrew9]
by robert73
Dec 20, 2006 (6:31 pm)
All right. I can understand that.
By the way, mschmal, that second website is Ford made. Unless it gives actual facts (horespower ratings, towing facts) It usually isn't true. Afterall, just showing you something they've already laid out probablty ain't. They could switch the parts to make it look like Ford's is the best, and their number one competitor's is the worst.
And on the Frame comparison, it doesn't even try to show the the competition's frames,just little cutouts of who knows what.
If you want comparisons, go to somewhere nonbiased not a car company owned place.
#11 of 577 Frame Facts
by mschmal
Dec 26, 2006 (9:33 am)
So you are are saying that Chevy does not use a C channel frame? and that Ford does not use Hydroformed Fully Boxed Frame?
The Tundra is an unproven commodity. Max production for Toyota is about 250k to 300k per year. I don't think Toyota will be able to steal to many customers with that kind of capacity. In the end, if the Toyota is better, it won't be enough better to justify paying the premium that the Toyota dealers will likely demand.
Mark.
Watch the Silver Creek road test video.
Mark.
#12 of 577 Spec's for Fullsize Pickups 2007
by iqbaldhillon2
Dec 26, 2006 (8:29 pm)
Here are some spec's for the Fullsize truck class for 2007.
Ford F150 300hp/365 lbft tor. 9500 lb towing capacity
Chevy Silverado 315hp/ 338 lbft tor. 10,500 lb towing capacity
Dodge Ram 345hp/375 lbft tor. 9000 lb towing capacity
Toyota Tundra 381hp/405 lbft tor. 10,800 lb towing capacity
Nissan Titan 317hp/ 385 lbft tor. 9500 lb towing capacity
Payload capacities
Ford F150(4x2) 2090 lbs
Chevy Silverado (4x2) 2150 lbs
Dodge Ram (4x2) 2200 lbs
Toyota Tundra (4x2) TBA
Nissan Titan (4x2) 1890 lbs
As you can see Chevy and Toyota have the two best towing trucks, while the Dodge Ram has the least along with the Ford F150 and the Nissan Titan.For payload capacities the Dodge Ram has the best. While the Nissan Titan somehow struggles to carry large loads. Also Chevy seems to produce the least amount of torque. NOTE: For Toyota Tundra the horsepower and torque numbers are rumors. If you would like to see for yourself go to wikipedia.com and search for the Toyota Tundra, then scroll down to second generation and it will have the numbers for only the 5.7 Liter.
To what I can see in 2007 the Toyota Tundra, Chevy Silverado, and Dodge Ram will sell well. The others will struggle a bit.