Last post on Oct 12, 2007 at 5:58 PM
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Toyota Tundra, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, Ford F-150, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Truck
#304 of 333 Re: I think not [anythingbuttoy]
Oct 10, 2007 (3:02 pm)
We've gone back and forth on this several times on different sites so here's the valid summary:
Both trucks are top of the line right now. Each has different characteristics that put it at the top of the list depending on what you want the truck to do.
The GMT900s have a generally larger payload capacity;
The Tundras has higher towing capacity than all the 5.3L GMs
The Tundra and the 6.0L GMs have approximately equal towing capability.
The Tundra has lower EPA ratings than the 5.3L but slightly higher ratings than the 6.0L.
The Tundra has all the safety equipment standard in all models.
The GMT900s have all the safety equipment standard only on some models and not available at all on other models. ( Yes Ma'am you did hear that correctly.' )
The Tundra is the ONLY truck on the market with a 6 spd tranny and a 4.30 rear end. That helps in towing, in acceleration and in fuel economy vs all the other 5 vehicles. The Tundra has both the highest high gear and the lowest low gear.
The IIHS, the Insurance Industry's testing arm, has given the Tundra its top rating in a frontal crash and top rating overall.
.........Aside: this is a marketing gaffe on GM's part IIHS Large Pickup rankings
The GM trucks are well known for their durability just as the Toyatas are know for their quality, dependability and reliability. Each is a good choice in this regard.
The Turning radius of the Tundra is smaller than all the others on the market making it more manueverable in tight spots.
These generalities apply to all models.
#305 of 333 Re: Did anyone see the CR test of the 4 major full-size players [gotoyota]
Oct 10, 2007 (3:26 pm)
alright come on guys this is gettin boring with u guys always arguing. you guys sound like school girls fighting over a boy... come on now..
#306 of 333 Re: I think not [kdhspyder]
Oct 10, 2007 (3:59 pm)
You left out the tailgate assist, the bigger doors, the larger interiors (of ALL cabs), and the larger cargo box (biggest in segment). All Toyota advantages. These are just the major advantages.
And this website thinks it's better too.
#307 of 333 Re: Like you'd wise up? [drfill]
Oct 10, 2007 (5:49 pm)
I know your game, it's old....and lame.
The Tundra's superior
Until you look at the frame....
And the crash test ratings
And the lack of OnStar
And the fugly, cheesy interior
And the frog-like front end
But other than that...
#308 of 333 Re: Like you'd wise up? [1offroader]
Oct 10, 2007 (6:04 pm)
Lack of a locking rear diff.
NO rainsense wipers
NO heated washer fluid
Fewer config options
Cheap painted plastic interior dash/panels which are already peeling and rubbing off (based on many complaints).
6 spd tranny issues.
Bed Bounce (likely due to wimpy frame design)
Thinner sheet metal (Dents when leaned against).
Crappy ext paint. (Complaints on how easy it is scratched and how thin it is are abundant).
Horrible factory remote start, which does not automatically control heat/AC and requires restarting after entry.
I am sure I missed some things, I'll update as I think of them, there are so many inferiorities, it's hard to remember them all.
Oh, did I mention it's FUGLY!!!???
#313 of 333 if your manufacturwer
Oct 10, 2007 (7:01 pm)
if your manufacturer did not exist which half ton truck would you purchase? i would purchase a chevy silverado.please be honest boys/gals it could be fun. your friend h20.