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#31 of 333 DODGE WHO? by toyota4life

Sep 01, 2007 (3:14 pm)

So now we are comparing the entire Toyota lineup to the Ram? Are you sure you want to compare Toyota to Chrysler? any how check this out , .......Forbes' Dan Lienert studied the NHTSA's recall numbers for 2006 models and compiled a list of the most recalled vehicles sold in the U.S. The worst? The 2006 Dodge Ram with a total of seven recalls. It was recalled for a bad brake control unit, a defective front suspension, potentially faulty airbags and transfer cases, possibly bad seatbelts, defective rearview mirrors and missing exterior lighting. We're not sure that includes the Ram recall we told you about last month. Second place also went to Dodge, with the Durango scoring six recalls..........There are cheap recalls and there are expensive recalls. Luckily for the Chrysler Group the current recall of 86,333 '06 Dodge Rams built between Nov. 7, 2005, and April 27, 2006 amounts to little more than adding grease to wheel bearings. Unfortunately for 2006 Ram owners if this issue is left unchecked it can lead to road noise and vibration and can eventually result in a loss of control and a crash. please feel free to bring up toyota recalls , as i will gladly plaster this forum with Chryslers Turds.

#32 of 333 Re: DODGE WHO? [toyota4life] by obyone

Sep 01, 2007 (8:41 pm)

Replying to: toyota4life (Sep 01, 2007 3:14 pm)
"as i will gladly plaster this forum with Chryslers Turds."
 
My, my a bit touchy aren't we? Name calling? Threats? Why don't you go ahead and plaster? Don't let anyone stop you. Just remember Toyota is the leader in recalls right now. On the famous Toyota sludge you're looking at over 2.2 million vehicles.
 
We haven't even mention the 4 star crash rating on the new Tundra from the NHTSA sending the Toyota engineers back to the drawing board confused as ever since they did a similar test and according to Toyota should have passed the NHTSA with a 5 star rating.

#33 of 333 HA HA by dennisplus

Sep 01, 2007 (10:05 pm)

Go OBYONE GO!!!!!!!!!!!

#34 of 333 Re: DODGE WHO? [toyota4life] by dustyk

Sep 01, 2007 (10:25 pm)

Replying to: toyota4life (Sep 01, 2007 3:14 pm)
The one suspension item on the 2500 that you mentioned is not associated with a factory equiped item, but a suspension component (pitman arm) part of an aftermarket lift kit.
 
But, if recalls are your criterion for despise I wouldn't be belittling any other make if you're a Toyota lover.

#35 of 333 Re: DODGE WHO? [dustyk] by toyota4life

Sep 02, 2007 (4:41 am)

Replying to: dustyk (Sep 01, 2007 10:25 pm)
LOL,I give up,you must realy think people are stupid ,Why would Dodge recall their products if it is an after market part?And are you telling me that every one just happen to install that same part? So now we are going to ignore my facts about dodge ram 8 recalls in one year?pathetic! please provide some facts about toyota having the must recalls,Dont bother ,Here you go ...................This one almost slipped past us as we readied for the weekend, but Ford announced a big recall today, involving 3.6 million vehicles with a faulty cruise control switch that could potentially cause a fire. This is essentially a follow-up to the January recall involving 6 mil light trucks for basically the same concern. ..........In case you're counting, and we know some of you are, this is sixth recall for speed control system concerns by Ford since 1999. Altogether there have been 10.4 million vehicles involved.
Again please give some info on toyota 10 plus million recalls, If they are leader in recalls,..I have a lot more from Chrysler and Chevy, But i will let you embarrass yourself first

#36 of 333 Re: LOL!! [obyone] by dustyk

Sep 02, 2007 (8:30 am)

Replying to: obyone (Aug 30, 2007 1:38 pm)
Obyone,
 
Since I've had the pleasure to see this once in my life, I would bet that the frame is not what was bent, but that the rear box mounts got crushed.
 
Best regards,
 
Dusty

#37 of 333 Re: LOL!! [dustyk] by obyone

Sep 02, 2007 (9:05 am)

Replying to: dustyk (Sep 02, 2007 8:30 am)
True that never crossed my mind nor the mind of that distraught Dodge owner. Hopefully that was the case as the repair cost would have been minimal as compared to his stress level.

#38 of 333 Re: DODGE WHO? [toyota4life] by dustyk

Sep 02, 2007 (9:14 am)

Replying to: toyota4life (Sep 02, 2007 4:41 am)
Just curious, but did you ever own a GM product?
 
A recommendation: instead of sporting a morally superior attitude, maybe a little humility might allow for intelligent and meaningful discourse.
 
Here are some of those facts you mentioned but obviously missed yourself:
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http://www.automotive.com/2006/49/dodge/ram-2500/recalls/60003.html
 
07E009000 - SUSPENSION
  
Recall Date:
FEB 01, 2007
  
Model Affected:
2006 DODGE RAM 2500
  
Summary:
CERTAIN LKI ENTERPRISES, INC., BRAND NAME SUPERLIFT SUSPENSION, PITMAN ARMS SOLD AS REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT FOR 2003-2007 DODGE RAM 2500 AND 3500 4X4 LIGHT TRUCKS. DUE TO INADEQUATE HEAT TREATMENT DURING PRODUCTION, THE AFFECTED PITMAN ARMS MAY DEVELOP CRACKS IN THE UPPER SPLINED ATTACHMENT ATTACHMENT TO THE STEERING OUTPUT SHAFT. MOVEMENT BETWEEN THE PITMAN ARM AND THE OUTPUT SHAFT MAY DEFORM SPLINES, RESULTING IN PREMATURE WEAR AND FATIGUE FAILURE OF THE AFFECTED PITMAN ARM.
  
Consequence:
PITMAN ARM WEAR OR FAILURE MAY LEAD TO LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL, POSSIBLY RESULTING IN A VEHICLE CRASH.
  
Remedy:
LKI WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND REPLACE THE PITMAN ARM, IF NECESSARY. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING FEBRUARY 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT LKI AT 1-800-551-4955.
  
Potential Units Affected:
3350
  
Notes:
L.K.I. ENTERPRISES, INC. 07-01PIT
 
In addition, the Transfer Case recall only affected 136 units. This "recall," by the way, never made it to individual owners because all of the affected trucks were corrected by dealers before they were delivered to buyers.
  
_________________________________________________
 
Flatly stated, there shouldn't be any recalls on any model vehicle. There are different ways to consider recalls and the commensurate gravity of them. The number of recalls per year by a manufacturer, per model, the quantity of vehicles affected, whether the defect was an assembly, design or a component quality problem, and the seriousness of the defect. If you are going to play the raw numbers game, be careful. That technique has the maturity level of arguing that someone is less guilty of stealing because they stole less than someone else.
 
Some may wish to distract attention away from Toyota's fallibility’s in other areas by concentrating on other manufacturers flaws, such as recalls in this case. But that sophomoric approach could come back to bite you.

#39 of 333 Wow could it be true? by obyone

Sep 02, 2007 (9:43 am)

"It would be accurate to say that there have been enough issues with Toyota in the past couple of years that they don't have the spotless image they had a couple of years ago," said Karl Brauer, editor in chief of Edmunds.com, an automotive research Web site.

#40 of 333 Re: DODGE WHO? [dustyk] by toyota4life

Sep 02, 2007 (9:51 am)

Replying to: dustyk (Sep 02, 2007 9:14 am)
BLAH,BLAH, BLAH ,A recall is a recall,There is no other way to put it, You keep talking about Toyota fallibility ,Compare to who? Thats what This is about,how can toyota be crap if everyone else is no better?...........General Motors: -73% at 1.4 million recalls (2005: 5 million)
Ford Motor Company: -71% at 1.7 million recalls (2005: 6 million)
Chrysler Group: 200% at 2.3 million recalls (2005: 765,777)
Nissan North America: 83% at 1.3 million recalls (2005: 709,838......Toyota, for instance, finished 2006 with 814,507 recalls, far fewer than the over 2 million that were issued in 2005........Toyota:
2.5 million US sales, 0.81 million US recalls, 32% recall rate
 
GM:
4.1 million US sales, 1.4 million US recalls, 34% recall rate
 
Ford:
2.9 million US sales, 1.7 million US recalls, 58% recall rate
 
DaimlerChrysler:
2.4 million US sales, 2.3 million US recalls, 96% recall rate

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