Last post on Oct 12, 2007 at 6:58 PM
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Toyota Tundra, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, Ford F-150, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Truck
#21 of 333 Re: My 2007 Dodge Rams' MPG [obyone]
Aug 30, 2007 (12:09 pm)
So are you with me and the Ram or against me and with the Toyota?
Aug 30, 2007 (12:37 pm)
I'm impartial. I'm just helping you out in pointing out the problems with the past and current Tundra and it's not the perfect truck some think of it to be.
A truck is a truck is a truck. As long as it does what you want it to, that to me is what it is for. Course some do it better than others but at what price and for perceived reliability.
What do I own? '03 Ranger, '05 Titan, '02 Yukon Denali. What do I use to haul or pull heavy loads? A '02 Dodge 3500 van. It will carry more than any of my trucks or a Tundra for that matter. Try loading a pallet of Quikrete in any half ton and I'm sure you will be looking at a bent frame.
#23 of 333 Re: LOL!! [obyone]
Aug 30, 2007 (12:50 pm)
Do you really thing that will mess up my truck? I loaded it with 3 Refridgerators and it handled prewtty well.
#24 of 333 Re: LOL!! [dennisplus]
Aug 30, 2007 (1:38 pm)
I've seen a lot of strange things at Home Depot. One was a pallet of quikrete loaded onto a Ford ranger. The ranger was riding on its mudflaps. The forklift driver asked the owner are you sure you can haul the load safely? The reply was no problem. Course his mudflaps will be shorter when he arrived at wherever he needed to get to unless he broke down on the way there.
Another incident was when a driver of a late model 1500 Dodge Ram told the forklift driver to place the pallet of 12" block tile over the rear tires and it will be ok. Course he didn't remove the tailgate forcing the forklift driver to place the load toward the rear of the bed then pushing it further in over the rear tires. Watching as he did this (I'm the curious type). I noticed that the gap between the cab and the bed opened about 2". The truck owner standing to the side didn't notice so I told him you might want to remove the load and check your truck.
When the driver removed the pallet, the 2" gap didn't move back to its original position. The result? One Dodge truck with a bent frame. Needless to say the owner was pissed. Would've been cheaper for him to rent the 2500 GMC Home Depot has than to have ruined his truck. Course he could have a body shop try and rebend the frame. But what good is that at this point?
Three refrigerators weigh at most 1000 lbs unless we're talking double door humongous. A pallet of quikrete is 40 bags x 60 lbs. + the weight of the pallet making it well over a ton. I wouldn't try that on any half ton even if it could carry the load would it be able to stop it safely? And why risk a bent frame on a new truck when you can rent one for $20 an hour?
#25 of 333 Re: LOL!! [obyone]
Aug 31, 2007 (1:37 pm)
Thanks for the look out. I had never really thoght about the frame bending in that spot. What do you think a bout a trailer to hall stuff? good looking out.
#27 of 333 Re: LOL!! [obyone]
Sep 01, 2007 (8:02 am)
OBYONE,It is kinda nice that you post your links about the Tundra,still waiting for you to post links to the Rams 8 recalls last year ,as a matter of fact please post links to recalls and problems from the medium 2.5 and compare them to the Tundra please,
#28 of 333 Living the experience with 3 RAMS
Sep 01, 2007 (9:33 am)
For years we heard how bad dodges were, from chevy and ford people, of course, but the folks we knew that had them didnt seem to have many problems with them. after owning fords for 20 years and the dealer and ford really sticking it to us on a windstar and two of our f150s, we converted every thing except the new holland tractors, from ford to dodge. we have a 2003 RAM 1500 with 93,000 miles, a 2004 1500 with 67,000 miles, and a 2005 3500 with 51,000. Weve only had the 2004 in to the dealer once for a blown instrument cluster, the other two Rams have never had to go back to the dealer for anything. i don't know how much better a toyoto tundra could be, but a few months ago i read in the corning paper about frames rusting through on toyota trucks. compared to our ford trucks the rAms have been terrifically reliable trucks that work all day and night on our farm and ranch operation. and none of our rams have been recalled either, so i dont know where that's coming from.
#29 of 333 DODGE! DODGE! DODGE!
Sep 01, 2007 (11:27 am)
I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY RECALLS ON MY TRUCK EITHER.
#30 of 333 Re: Living the experience with 3 RAMS [morganv]
Sep 01, 2007 (1:26 pm)
There have been six recalls on RAM going back to 2002:
1. 2002-2006 ANZO replacement lamps do not have an amber side reflector.
2. 2002-2006 CK Motorsports replacement lamps do not have a side reflector.
3. 2004 alternator harness may rub on valve cover stud (4.7 motor only).
4. 2002-2003 Aftermarket batteries may leak electrolyte onto an ABS connector and cause ABS circuit failure.
5. 2003 PCM Software fault with Cummins diesel engines and manual transmissions may experience elevated idle speed after extended cruise control use.
6. 2002 Certain 4X4 versions the rear axle flange weld could fatigue and allow the brake caliper assembly to rotate.
I believe the frame rusting issue is on the Tacoma pickup models. I know of one 2002 that you can stick your finger through the frame rails in certain areas. I've not heard of this problem associated with the Tundra.
Someone mentioned the supposed infallibility of Toyota. I can testify that on each occasion to Hoselton Toyota, where we bought our '99 Avalon, I have seen at least one Tundra with the transmission out being repaired or rebuilt. Our Avalon has had the transmission apart twice now for irratic shifting. Coupled with having to replace all of the fuel injectors (one twice), the oil sludge problem, weird electrical problems, wheels corroded through causing leaks and eventual replacement (at $380 a piece!!!), six sway bar links ($100 a piece), and a fish pond of water in the damn trunk, the last thing I mention to anybody is Toyota reliability.