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#1 of 7 enclave lack of hill side assist safety feature by danitalks Sep 21, 2007 (6:42 pm)
I just bought an AWD CXL Enclave. I love everything about it...except was totally surprised by the rapid roll back on a hill at stop sign or red light. Is this commonly happening with all drivers of Enclaves? This roll back almost caused a serious accident, and requires a two foot brake and gas approach, to mount a hill... Replies to this message: zman3 (Sep 21, 2007 8:05 pm) danitalks (Sep 28, 2007 4:52 pm) zman3 (Sep 29, 2007 4:48 am) and 1 more... tyro (May 15, 2009 12:54 am)
#2 of 7 Re: enclave lack of hill side assist safety feature [danitalks] by zman3 Sep 21, 2007 (8:05 pm)
Replying to: danitalks (Sep 21, 2007 6:42 pm) I'm not trying to be flippant here but how would a slight roll back cause a serious accident? While our Enclave may roll back ever so slightly before getting on the gas, I would not consider it a safety issue. Replies to this message: danitalks (Sep 28, 2007 4:52 pm) zman3 (Sep 29, 2007 4:48 am) zman3 (Oct 04, 2007 2:16 pm) tyro (May 15, 2009 12:54 am)
#3 of 7 Re: enclave lack of hill side assist safety feature [zman3] by danitalks Sep 28, 2007 (4:52 pm)
Replying to: zman3 (Sep 21, 2007 8:05 pm) Actually the roll back is not slight, but dramatic. i researched that similar cars in the same clas: Acura MDX, Lexus, Mercedes, Citroen, Toureg,... have the safety feature Hill Roll Back Control, aka Hill-Start Assist as a standard feature. Although you dont consider this a safety issue, the above manufacturers felt compelled to resolve what they call a serious safety issue. Are there other Enclave owners who have experienced the same thing? Replies to this message: zman3 (Sep 29, 2007 4:48 am) zman3 (Oct 04, 2007 2:16 pm) tyro (May 15, 2009 12:54 am)
#4 of 7 Re: enclave lack of hill side assist safety feature [danitalks] by zman3 Sep 29, 2007 (4:48 am)
Replying to: danitalks (Sep 28, 2007 4:52 pm) Try this forum:   http://www.enclaveforum.net/   I don't recall anyone else complaining about this but you can give it a shot. And I am trying to help but you did not answer my question. How far does it roll back? The time between releasing the brake and applying gas should be fraction of a second. Replies to this message: zman3 (Oct 04, 2007 2:16 pm)
#5 of 7 Re: enclave lack of hill side assist safety feature [zman3] by zman3 Oct 04, 2007 (2:16 pm)
Replying to: zman3 (Sep 29, 2007 4:48 am) On the Acadia equivalent of the Enclave forum I posted above, some people now claim that a transmission reflash has helped with a rollback issue. The reflash is meant to improve responsiveness of the transmission.
#6 of 7 Enclave Forum by danitalks Nov 30, 2007 (7:58 pm)
Re: the orginal post on the Enclave rolling back unexpectely on an incline in Drive, or even slipping forward, while on an incline trying to go in Reverse, this comment has solicited 50 + responses on the Encave forum...Great feedback is there about design deficiencies, and comparisons with other in-class manufacturers' standard safetyfeatyre known as : Hill Control Assist...There is power in numbers, and i believe we may instigate GM to take responsibility for this design problem. Check out the Enclave forum.
#7 of 7 Re: enclave lack of hill side assist safety feature [danitalks] by tyro May 15, 2009 (12:54 am)
Replying to: danitalks (Sep 28, 2007 4:52 pm) The roll back can be very dramatic and indeed can cause a serious accident; it all depends on how steep the hill or incline is. I parked at a Boston Market where there was a fairly steep incline only to find the car moving forward rapidly. I had to slam on the brake and I did panic based on how fast it started rolling forward. Gunning the engine immediately after taking my foot of the brake prevented any roll but I can testify based on my experience that it can be quite dramatic. The week before I had mentioned this issue to the dealer and I was told it was normal but never had I experienced it on an incline steeper than the hill where it usually happens. If something can be done to correct this they should put it into effect. Would I buy the car all over again. CERTAINLY!

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