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First Drive: 2009 Honda Fit - Inside the Fit's cabin, it's apparent that quality levels are up, with improved plastics, more supportive seats and a tilt-and-telescoping steering wheel. Meanwhile, a new dashboard layout looks softer, reflecting a special effort by stylists to appeal to women. (more)
 
2009 Honda Fit Sport Full Test - Bottom Line: If only every sequel were so good. It's as if Honda used our long-term test blog about the 2007 Fit as a road map for the 2009 model's improvements. (more)


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Re: PRICE/OPTIONS [backy] by kittyworld
May 07, 2008 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 07, 2008 4:06 pm)

I hope the nav will not be tied to the stability control option. I want the stability control but not the nav. I can get a top of the garmin nuvi unit w/ bluetooth and all the other bells and whistles for a lot less, and i can take it to another car when necessary. It's also a lot easier to update maps w/ the portable garmin unit. Garmin can pronouse street names, which is a must for me. Does anyone know what the current Honda nav unit is like?
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Re: PRICE/OPTIONS [kittyworld] by thegreatoz
May 07, 2008 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: kittyworld (May 07, 2008 6:57 pm)

The Navigation on the Honda has several nice features over the GM Nav units. I use both.
 
First, the Honda has a security feature that makes you enter a password to go to the Personal Destination menus. For instance, if you're car-jacked, the thief can't get turn-by-turn directions to your house. That would not be good, since he probably also has your house keys on the car keyring.
 
With GM, a thief has directions, plus your garage door opener built into the overhead console!
 
Under the "Go Home" button, enter the address of the local police station...and name your home "Wendy's" or "Wal-Mart."
 
Second, Honda's Nav does not make you come to a complete stop to enter commands or make menu selections. I don't recommend typing in street names and numbers while driving, but it is nice to enter "Detour" "Change Route" without grinding to a halt or pulling off where there's no shoulder on the road. GM makes you come to a complete stop, or be moving under 5 mph.
 
I recommend using the Voice Commands with both Honda and GM, for safety.
 
By the way, Honda's Nav has two separate password-protected User Menus for a second driver. You certainly wouldn't want your spouse driving to your mistress' apartment. NOTE: always delete the "Recent Destinations" list in such a case.
 
Neither system has "text-to-speech" like the better portables now feature.
 
The nice thing about GM's Nav unit, it is usually coupled with a rear-back-up camera.
 
With the recent rash of thefts of portable GPS units, it's comforting to know that a built-in-dash navigation system will discourage break-in, unless they want the whole car.
 
Map updates (annual) are no problem. The first update (on DVD) is free.
 
If you're inclined to take your Honda to a dealer for service, every Honda and Acura dealership nationwide is marked with an icon on all maps.
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Re: PRICE/OPTIONS [kittyworld] by backy
May 08, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: kittyworld (May 07, 2008 6:57 pm)

That's a good point. The one I want is the Base Fit, with 5AT and VSC (no nav of course). I wonder if VSC will be a true option (which Honda doesn't do very often), or a trim. That would make the list of trims pretty long!
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2009 Honda Fit by alpogi
May 09, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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I was planning on buying a MB C-series, but with the continuing high prices of gas, I'm very serious on buying this wonderful car. My first car was 89 civic. Gave it to my brother-in-law. And it is still running strong. Right now, I have a '99 Toyota Sienna(familyvehicle) and a '99 Honda Civic LX(work vehicle) with 80,000+ miles. It still runs smooth, but when I saw the new upgrade of the Fit, I want one!!! With all the safety features and conveniencies(Navigation, Ipod connection), I'm pretty sure this is going to be another success for Honda. You always wonder why american cars are always behind...
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Perfect FIT by thegreatoz
May 09, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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You always wonder why american cars are always behind...
 
We Honda drivers don't wonder; it's obvious.
Especially to those of us who drive both!
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Re: Perfect FIT [thegreatoz] by jacksan1
May 09, 2008 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: thegreatoz (May 09, 2008 3:16 pm)

You always wonder why american cars are always behind...
 
Indeed. Technologically, American companies, including automobile manufacturers, have the capacity to create the best products in the world, and in many areas, that has been happening. Just not in automobiles. Yes, the American auto companies have smart people with good work ethics, which then provides them with the capacity or potential to make just as good cars as the Japanese. Nevertheless, something seems to be holding up the innate capacity from blooming fully within these American car companies. Capacity or potential alone does not good products make. It has to be tapped, and tapped well. I naturally don't have an answer to the puzzle. If I did, I'd be an industrial consultant/psychologist and charging $500 per hour per person giving seminars, which I am not doing right now.
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Re: Perfect FIT [jacksan1] by kittyworld
May 10, 2008 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (May 09, 2008 8:13 pm)

This is from the "priuschat.com" forum that I just read the other day. Very interesting. I am copying it here since it to answer your exact question:
 
A MODERN PARABLE . .
 
A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (Ford) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River. Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.
 
On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.
 
The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.
 
Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.
 
Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.
 
They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.
 
Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents, and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager.
 
They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners, and free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes, and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.
 
The next year the Japanese won by two miles.
 
Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India.
 
Sadly, The End.
 
Here's something else to think about:
Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US, claiming they can't make money paying American wages.
 
TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US. The last quarter's results:
 
TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.
 
Ford folks are still scratching their heads.
 
IF THIS WEREN'T TRUE, IT MIGHT BE FUNNY.
 
The original posting is at link title around the middle of the page. Also read a reply 2 postings down.
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Re: Perfect FIT [kittyworld] by thegreatoz
May 10, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: kittyworld (May 10, 2008 7:35 am)

AKA: "Tales from the Dark Side"
#282 of 556
'09 Fit colors by upstatedoc
May 12, 2008 (6:50 am)
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I think this question has been addressed but does anyone know where to go to see the new colors?
 
If it's on the JDM site which buttons/icons do I select?
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When can I buy one? by epaluch
May 12, 2008 (11:20 am)
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Any idea when you can spec one out and buy it?

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