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#533 of 538 Re: Shifter & more.. [samnoe] by jogousa Nov 04, 2009 (9:19 am)
Replying to: samnoe (Nov 04, 2009 8:24 am) I think it was mentioned on this forum previously that designs of Hondas (like most other brands) are based on frequent consumer's clinics where consumers fill out features that they prefer or what they would like to see on future models. I was on few of them myself. Only then some of these features are implemented into production.   Gated shifter is a safety issue (so that kids bouncing inside the car, for example) do not accidentaly shift gears. All Subarus, for example, have that feature. You may not like it but most people surveyed probably do.   Ditto car charger. If these were "live" and someone would leave some electronics plugged in, it becomes a fire hazzard.   I agree with you on the lights accidentally left on and draining battery. One example, daytime driving lights on VW Jetta do not automatically turn off, when you turn the iginition key off. That is annoying. Typically, a small interior bulb should not drain the battery although in some instances and climates it might.   Withe regards "copy them" - they did a lot of copying in the past and it seems that is now the other way around; i.e. US car manufacturers are copying them (in my opinion)! Replies to this message: thegraduate (Nov 04, 2009 6:36 pm) jogousa (Nov 05, 2009 9:54 am)
#534 of 538 EX-L OTR price in Canada by vanderhb2 Nov 04, 2009 (11:38 am)
Signed Scarborough ON Canada deal on Oct 31 2009. On the road (OTR) price is $24,999. No options / extras in this deal except wheel locks and touch up paint. Only regret (so far ... delivery is later this week) is that my first offer (accepted) didn't go into managers office lower Replies to this message: max09 (Nov 07, 2009 10:07 pm)
#535 of 538 Re: Shifter & more.. [jogousa] by thegraduate Nov 04, 2009 (6:36 pm)
Replying to: jogousa (Nov 04, 2009 9:19 am) Gated shifter is a safety issue (so that kids bouncing inside the car, for example) do not accidentaly shift gears. All Subarus, for example, have that feature. You may not like it but most people surveyed probably do   I disagree - I can just as easily shift down a gear in a gated shifter as in my inline auto shifter. To go past neutral or 3rd, You have to push the button on the lever. In my girlfriend's Hyundai Santa Fe, you just push forward and the gates guide you to park; no button necessary. I'd say its safer to have to make two steps to shift (button+movement) rather than just movement. At least the gates in my friend's old TL ('96) required one push down on the shifter to move it past Reverse or into lower gears.   Whose kids are bouncing around the car while driving down the road? The driver should be buried under the jail for not buckling the kids up. Replies to this message: jogousa (Nov 05, 2009 9:54 am)
#536 of 538 Re: Shifter & more.. [samnoe] by targettuning Nov 05, 2009 (8:44 am)
Replying to: samnoe (Nov 04, 2009 8:24 am) With regard to Honda's use of a non-gated shifter....it has garnered universal dislike in the automotive press for the ease with which it slides past D (drive using all 5 speeds) into 3 (I believe) which eliminates overdrive use causing the car to motor along in other than 5th gear with the driver mostly unaware. Can you say worse, relatively speaking, fuel economy? If I remember correctly at least one poster here also complained that he found his daughter consistently driving in 3 rather than D. It isn't too confining to follow the gated shift pattern found on Hyundai among others since you generally only shift from park to drive or reverse once or twice during any given drive.
#537 of 538 Re: Shifter & more.. [thegraduate] by jogousa Nov 05, 2009 (9:54 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 04, 2009 6:36 pm) No kids should be bouncing - that was just a figure speech...although I have seen that around here quite a lot... for that matter, there are many other distractions like texting, handling food, smoking, animals running back and forth ... etc. that could trigger shifter to move...it's a jungle out there.... I like the gated shifter and apparently many others as well...had it on my Subrau ....
#538 of 538 Re: EX-L OTR price in Canada [vanderhb2] by max09 Nov 07, 2009 (10:07 pm)
Replying to: vanderhb2 (Nov 04, 2009 11:38 am) Wow! Is this for a 2009 or 2010? $24,999, does that include taxes & freight? I think no matter what price you get your vehicle for, you always think that you could of gotten better! I was very happy paying $25,900 for my 2009 EX-L!

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