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#532 of 572 Shifter & more..
Nov 04, 2009 (8:24 am)
One of the favorite things I like about my Civic (or any Honda for that matter), is that they use the straight shifters. Unlike Toyota, which gives you the GATED SHIFTER (very ugly IMO, and not useful at all, I don't see the advantage). I would suggest Honda to keep it up and don't fall for those stupid shifters.
One thing, though, which someone mentioned before, and both Toyota & Honda are accused for that, which I would like to see changed: Give the option for a car charger to work even the engine is off. You can not charge a cell phone or any other device with engine off (unlike all American vehicles, which gives you the ability).
Interesting though, speaking about the battery, that Honda doesn't have a battery saver feature like most other manufacturers, especially domestic. Meaning, if you leave an interior lamp ON by mistake, it won't turn off automatically after a while, causing your battery to drain. Thankfully, they had the same problems with (more common) headlamps -- I had an incident with a 2005 Accord --, but that was recently corrected on most Honda models. Still need to do the same for interior lamps.
Another minor improvement I would like to see in Toyota/Honda cars, to get rid of the intrusive trunk hinges, which limits trunk space & crushing cargo. Again, in this regard the US manufacturers are better. So copy them.
#533 of 572 Re: Shifter & more.. [samnoe]
Nov 04, 2009 (9:19 am)
I think it was mentioned on this forum previously that designs of Hondas (like most other brands) are based on frequent consumer's clinics where consumers fill out features that they prefer or what they would like to see on future models. I was on few of them myself.
Only then some of these features are implemented into production.
Gated shifter is a safety issue (so that kids bouncing inside the car, for example) do not accidentaly shift gears. All Subarus, for example, have that feature. You may not like it but most people surveyed probably do.
Ditto car charger. If these were "live" and someone would leave some electronics plugged in, it becomes a fire hazzard.
I agree with you on the lights accidentally left on and draining battery. One example, daytime driving lights on VW Jetta do not automatically turn off, when you turn the iginition key off. That is annoying. Typically, a small interior bulb should not drain the battery although in some instances and climates it might.
Withe regards "copy them" - they did a lot of copying in the past and it seems that is now the other way around; i.e. US car manufacturers are copying them (in my opinion)!
#534 of 572 EX-L OTR price in Canada
Nov 04, 2009 (11:38 am)
Signed Scarborough ON Canada deal on Oct 31 2009. On the road (OTR) price is $24,999. No options / extras in this deal except wheel locks and touch up paint. Only regret (so far ... delivery is later this week) is that my first offer (accepted) didn't go into managers office lower
#535 of 572 Re: Shifter & more.. [jogousa]
Nov 04, 2009 (6:36 pm)
Gated shifter is a safety issue (so that kids bouncing inside the car, for example) do not accidentaly shift gears. All Subarus, for example, have that feature. You may not like it but most people surveyed probably do
I disagree - I can just as easily shift down a gear in a gated shifter as in my inline auto shifter. To go past neutral or 3rd, You have to push the button on the lever. In my girlfriend's Hyundai Santa Fe, you just push forward and the gates guide you to park; no button necessary. I'd say its safer to have to make two steps to shift (button+movement) rather than just movement. At least the gates in my friend's old TL ('96) required one push down on the shifter to move it past Reverse or into lower gears.
Whose kids are bouncing around the car while driving down the road? The driver should be buried under the jail for not buckling the kids up.
#536 of 572 Re: Shifter & more.. [samnoe]
Nov 05, 2009 (8:44 am)
With regard to Honda's use of a non-gated shifter....it has garnered universal dislike in the automotive press for the ease with which it slides past D (drive using all 5 speeds) into 3 (I believe) which eliminates overdrive use causing the car to motor along in other than 5th gear with the driver mostly unaware. Can you say worse, relatively speaking, fuel economy? If I remember correctly at least one poster here also complained that he found his daughter consistently driving in 3 rather than D. It isn't too confining to follow the gated shift pattern found on Hyundai among others since you generally only shift from park to drive or reverse once or twice during any given drive.
#537 of 572 Re: Shifter & more.. [thegraduate]
Nov 05, 2009 (9:54 am)
No kids should be bouncing - that was just a figure speech...although I have seen that around here quite a lot... for that matter, there are many other distractions like texting, handling food, smoking, animals running back and forth ... etc. that could trigger shifter to move...it's a jungle out there....
I like the gated shifter and apparently many others as well...had it on my Subrau ....
#538 of 572 Re: EX-L OTR price in Canada [vanderhb2]
Nov 07, 2009 (10:07 pm)
Wow! Is this for a 2009 or 2010? $24,999, does that include taxes & freight? I think no matter what price you get your vehicle for, you always think that you could of gotten better! I was very happy paying $25,900 for my 2009 EX-L!
#539 of 572 2009 Civic stolen
Nov 30, 2009 (10:42 am)
Had my 2009 Civic LX-S ( 5000 miles) stolen from my driveway last week. Car was locked and I am still in possesion of both keys. No alarm was heard and car has not been found to date. This is my second Honda stolen from my residence in 7yrs. Either it's time to move or better start buying Lojack.
#540 of 572 Re: 2009 Civic stolen [onedmc]
Nov 30, 2009 (11:04 am)
Most stolen cars:
1994 Honda Accord
1995 Honda Civic
1989 Toyota Camry
1997 Ford F150 Series
2004 Dodge Ram Pickup
2000 Dodge Caravan
1996 Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee
1994 Acura Integra
1999 Ford Taurus
Hondas are stolen mostly for parts because thiefs can make more money on parts rather than on stolen cars - those are harder to "unload".
Get a dog! The best alarm ever!
#541 of 572 Re: 2009 Civic stolen [onedmc]
Nov 30, 2009 (8:56 pm)
I'm surprised. I wonder how they got around the immobilizer key?