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#423 of 572 Re: Please help my confusion [jwifferdill]
Nov 03, 2008 (10:35 pm)
I don't know what TTL stands for. But the dealer started out with the EX costing around 21,???. I just showed him my paper that had the info for my current loan info on it with monthly payments of $234 at 5.09% and that I wanted to keep my payments as close to that as possible and definitely under $300. So he did his figuring and came up with a trade in value of 15,800 for my car and paying off my loan. So the bottom line was my payment would be $299 a month for a 5 year loan at 3.9% and this was for $16,??? (whatever I said in my first post). Tonight I went to a different dealer to see what they would give me just to see the difference and they only offered me $11,000 - 12,000 on my trade-in. I was mad at that for my car. It really is a great car. 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid and I get great gas mileage. But then driving home I was thinking maybe I was taken by the dealer that sold me the car back on May 31, 2008 when I purchased the car. I bought it for I think it was $17 or 18,000 but I bought an extended warranty and it ended up being $21,000 somehow. I don't exactly remember and I'd have to get my paperwork out but I think it was $21,???. This makes me mad though thinking I might have gotten taken. If it isn't even 6 months later and it might not be worth much more than half of what I paid. On the other hand, maybe I should take this other dealer's offer for 15,800 for my car and get the EX for 16,???. It just will be so hard to lose my 40 mpg gas savings.
#424 of 572 Re: Please help my confusion [cricket1001]
Nov 04, 2008 (5:45 am)
TTL stands for Tax, Title and Lic fee's
Black Book is what the dealerships normally look at, not the Kelly Blue Book and the dealership normally always try to give you Average not the Clean Price, which is normally about a thousand or more over Average depending on the condition of your car. They tried that with me on a one year old honda Accord and then changed it to Clean when I brought this to their attention.
Not only that, the mileage will play a part as well. Low mileage gives you more money and more mileage then normal you will take a bigger hit.
#425 of 572 Re: Please help my confusion [cricket1001]
Nov 04, 2008 (8:26 am)
I don't mean this to sound harsh, but you made one of the biggest mistakes a car buyer can make: you told the sales rep that you want a payment "under $XXX." And of course they came back with $299/month, which is what you asked for. But is it a good deal? Instead, you should negotiate the price of the new car, the EX, as low as you can get it (note that other buyers are getting some deals on 2009 Civics), THEN bring up the trade as a separate transaction and see what they will give you for it. That is the only way you'll know what deal they are giving you on the new car, and what value your trade has.
Or... since the Hybrid is such a great car with great fuel economy and has an extended warranty, why not just keep it?
#426 of 572 Need Advise on Buying Civic
Nov 04, 2008 (6:41 pm)
I have the following quotes from a dealer in NYC but can't really decide which one is better. Please advise and let me know if they are indeed good deals:
USED, NOT CERTIFIED
2006 EX AT Sedan, 36k miles: $15,200
I saw the car and it looks in very good condition.
The CarFax report came out clean. One owner.
4D SEDAN AT LX: $17200 including destination charge.
Other only fees are TTL.
4D SEDAN AT LX S: $17,750 including destination charge.
Other only fees are TTL.
No matter what car I buy, I would finance. I have excellent credit and I'm sure I'll qualify for the 1.9%, 36 months or 3.9% 60 months. I have no idea what APR I would get if I get the used one.
Are these good deals? Am I better off buying used or new given these offers? I'm afraid that if I buy used, once I add any extended warranty and probably pay a higher APR, the price would probably be as much as buying new.
Any probability that Honda APR would go even lower (0%?) after 1/09?
Please advise. This forum is great.
#427 of 572 Re: Need Advise on Buying Civic [jcarlos]
Nov 05, 2008 (7:16 am)
I've never been a fan of Hondas as used cars as I just don't feel the value is there, so I'd stay new. Both the prices on the new vehicles seem decent, so I'd give my business to the one that has been the most upfront and professional, assuming both dealers are equally conveniently close to you.
#428 of 572 Re: Need Advise on Buying Civic [jcarlos]
Nov 05, 2008 (7:58 am)
I am also looking for an LX Sedan or LX-S Sedan. Can you let me know which dealership in NYC gave you these quotes? Thanks.
#429 of 572 Anyone Buy a 2009 SI Sedan?
Nov 05, 2008 (12:04 pm)
Has anyone out there purchased a 2009 SI Sedan? I was wondering how you like it - other than the new car euphoria, have you had any issues or concerns? I heard there was a problem with the throttle in 3rd gear ( I don't know enough about that kind of thing to know what that really means) where the throttle "sticks" ?
#430 of 572 Re: Need Advise on Buying Civic [ski353]
Nov 05, 2008 (9:34 pm)
I'd have to go through my email to double-check the dealer. I've received so many quotes from different dealers that I'm starting to lose track. I'm sure I can find it, though. What if we can join forces and probably go to this dealer and request an even lower deal?
Let me know if you have any idea of how we can go about this.
#431 of 572 Re: Need Advise on Buying Civic [jcarlos]
Nov 06, 2008 (5:16 am)
What if we can join forces and probably go to this dealer and request an even lower deal?
That question has been asked quite a bit on different forums here and the consensus is that it won't help you. Buying more than one vehicle at the same time is still treated like seperate purchases.
Nov 06, 2008 (9:24 am)
Does anyone know where you can find invoice price for the accessories (lip spoiler, fog lights, etc.)?