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443 messages, Last post on Nov 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM
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Replying to: broadwaytoshop (Aug 25, 2008 5:34 pm) BTW, here's a list of the nine recalls to date on the 2006 Civic (some apply to the 2007 Civic also): http://www.automotive.com/2006/12/honda/civic/recalls/index.html |
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Replying to: broadwaytoshop (Aug 25, 2008 5:34 pm)  Keep up the great work HONDA!!! 
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Replying to: heybroder (Aug 25, 2008 8:22 pm) It is the number 3 or 4 vehicle in terms of sales; you just don't see them because they are so new, i'd guess. I notice at least one a day on my relatively limited commute. For the record, after the way American Honda (and our local dealer who used to be stellar in terms of service after the sale) has treated my mother and father regarding their suspension problem (refusing to help pay on the tires that the faulty suspension ruined at 30k miles, and again at 54k), I'll think long and hard before considering Honda again, despite how happy I am with my 2006 Accord. Just be aware, no car is flawless; including the Civic.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 25, 2008 8:31 pm)
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Replying to: heybroder (Aug 26, 2008 6:59 am) |
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Replying to: backy (Aug 25, 2008 5:58 pm) You suggest that there is no evidence of the outstanding reliability of the Civic. Here is one small piece: "The 2008 Honda Civic became America's current best selling vehicle in May, as some 53,299 examples hit the road in a single month" This article was found on Inside Line of Edmunds dated 6/18/08 Here is another small piece of evidence: "The best sold cars in the U.S. are made by Honda [whose] strenghis its consistency" Consumer Reports in April 2008 The Civic, introduced in the U.S. in 1972, is now in its eighth generation. The Scion can only hope to have this type of success in the future. I believe you misunderstand, if you think the Scion, can honestly hold its own against the Civic in terms of reliability.
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Replying to: broadwaytoshop (Aug 26, 2008 9:17 am) "The 2008 Honda Civic became America's current best selling vehicle in May, as some 53,299 examples hit the road in a single month" This article was found on Inside Line of Edmunds dated 6/18/08 That's great. Recently, the Ford F-150 truck was the best-selling vehicle. Did that make it most reliable? The Civic, introduced in the U.S. in 1972, is now in its eighth generation. The Scion can only hope to have this type of success in the future. I believe you misunderstand, if you think the Scion, can honestly hold its own against the Civic in terms of reliability. Again I ask, does the fact that Ford has been making the F-Series Pickup truck longer than the Civic mean that it will be inherently more reliable? I'll answer for you... it doesn't work that way.
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Replying to: broadwaytoshop (Aug 26, 2008 9:17 am) Second, you are neglecting the fact that Scions are re-badged Toyotas, with parts shared with other Toyotas e.g. Yaris and Corolla. Note that the Corolla debuted in the U.S. in the mid-'60s--before the Civic. By your logic, that would make the Toyotas/Scions more reliable than the Civic, correct? Second, as thegraduate pointed out, you are using sales success to demonstrate that the Civic is more reliable than the Scion. There isn't a direct correlation from sales numbers to reliability. As I said earlier, when you have some evidence that the Civic is significantly more reliable than Scions, please share it with us. Your opinion that the Civic is more reliable than Scion doesn't make it a fact. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 26, 2008 11:50 am) That's great. Recently, the Ford F-150 truck was the best-selling vehicle. Did that make it most reliable? Record sales figures seemed like evidence to me. (Oh BTW these aren't bloated best selling figures that include fleet sales like that of the F-150) So to be clear, I am pointing out the reliabilty of the Civic in comparison to the Scion. I never said it was the most reliable car ever! Are you suggesting that the Scion is just as reliable? Please offer some evidence in support, if this is your position.
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Replying to: backy (Aug 26, 2008 1:01 pm) Just because I did no use spell check, does not mean the information is fabricated, as you suggest. You keep restating the Scion and Toyota relationship. Why? Perhaps it's because the Scion alone can not stand up to the Civic alone. You asked for evidence. I attempted to provide evidence. Sales figures alone are not a direct correlation to reliability, and neither is the fact that Honda has manufactured the Civic for such a long time. Combine these facts with all the other data available, however, and my opinion is that the Civic has more reliable than the Scion. If you have some facts, other than the Scion is a re-badged Toyota to support your opinion, please feel free to enlighten the rest of us. BTW significantly more reliable seems kind of relative. How in your opinion, do you measure significantly more reliable?
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