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04 Chevy Trailblazer - Loss of power & Stalling
by satvic
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Sep 17, 2007 (9:31 pm)
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howdy all. got my 04 TB, 4.2L v6 in 06 with 13k miles, 23k miles now. was a salavage title (insurance mistake) so no warranty everything worked fine. So few mo later had to replace the battery since it's been sitting for a 3-4month and the stock one slowly went dead on me.
I'm a computer admin with some mechanics experience from working on Ninja 900cc..can do maintenance but not much of a troubleshooter when it comes to cars
I started noticing that once in a while i'd be driving in the range of 20-65m/h and have no power regardless how I push the gas pedal. Engine runs but tranny doesn't get invloved. I'd release the pedal and just roll for a couple of sec and push again and it'd be fine.
well, it's been over a yr now, and i find it doing it almost every time I drive it. it happens when engine is cold and when it's at normal op temp (I'm in Dallas, car warms up very fast). Most of the time it happens on the ramp getting on the highway and speeding up on the hightway but mostly in that range.
I haven't had any warning lights come on or engine lights... starts everytime, even in the winter. I change oil myself every 3,500 (Castrol GTX 5w30 with AcDelco filter). Tranny oil is still from the factory.
so one day it wouldn't pull while going up a steep ramp and tried releasing and pushing the gas pedal as always but the engine just died. I was able to pull over to the shoulder... switched to neutral and SOB started just fine!
I tried scanning the computer, but the scanner can't seem to establish a connection (keeps telling me to plugin the cable).
I'll take the dash apart this week to check if I forgot to connect the OBDII jack back after I run the fog light switch from the dash into fusebox.
Some guys were mentioning bad Neutral gear switch .. can I test that in some way or only a dealer can do that (where is it anyways)? Is it possible that I cause the problem by resting my right hand on the gear selector while driving?
Since the car didn't have warranty I made following upgrades after I got it: replaced the stock stereo with a mp3/USB deck (had to buy special harness with a chip) and installed a pair of fog lights with harness (7A on the same fuse as RPM gage, only I replaced 5A rpm fuse for a splitter with 2 5A fuses)
Thanx so much in advance for any ideas and advice.
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Re: 04 Chevy Trailblazer - Loss of power & Stalling [satvic]
by vbell
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Oct 29, 2007 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: satvic (Sep 17, 2007 9:31 pm)
I own a 2007 Trailblazer...I6 4.2L, much like yours. I have had a similar problem happen twice in my brand new truck. The first time I was driving about 20mph- the truck lost power and dropped to almost 5-10 mph. With in seconds..it had kicked back in and it was fine. I have Onstar so I called them and had them do an emergency diagnostic- found nothing wrong. Exactly 30 days later- truck did it again, this time I was doing about 75 down the highway and it lost power and dropped to about 25-30 mph. Very scary on a busy highway!!! I took it to the dealer, they say nothing is wrong. I even contacted GM regarding this matter, they gave me free oil changes for a year becuase they dont know what is wrong. My father came up with this idea that maybe Onstar had something to do with it. We deactivated Onstar (its been over a month since Onstar has been gone now) and i havent had the problem at all. Just was wondering your thoughts on this, it seems like we are having the same problem. No one from the dealership or GM can figure it out, so its almost like I am conducting my own investigation!!!!!
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Re: 04 Chevy Trailblazer - Loss of power & Stalling [vbell]
by satvic
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Nov 01, 2007 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: vbell (Oct 29, 2007 9:50 am)
unbelievable, isn't it Well, I haven't gotten around to checking my OBDII connections so I can't scan for anything I now mostly drive on cruise control cause it only happens when I'm pushing the pedal by foot (even though I check everything I can't see what's causing it) .... in mine, the injection controlled by a switch (when I push the accelerator down) the cable that goes to the throttle opener goes through a switch .. thinking to replace that and to see what happens.
Now I started getting engine light during rainy weather .. i think one of the oxygen sensors .. but no idea which one. after i drive for an hour smth must be drying up cause the light goes away
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Re: 04 Chevy Trailblazer - Loss of power & Stalling [vbell]
by ficuss
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Nov 14, 2007 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: vbell (Oct 29, 2007 9:50 am)
this sounds like new feature that allows Onstar to cut your power if police request that action. Could it be that someone at OnStar is tweaking the system and testing randomly?
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Re: 04 Chevy Trailblazer - Loss of power & Stalling [ficuss]
by satvic
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Nov 22, 2007 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: ficuss (Nov 14, 2007 7:18 am)
except I don't have Onstar ......
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Re: 04 Chevy Trailblazer - Loss of power & Stalling [satvic]
by ficuss
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Nov 24, 2007 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: satvic (Nov 22, 2007 2:56 pm)
satvic: I was responding to a prior post by vbell with an 07 Trailblazer. OnStars new feature allows THEM to reduce your engine power when THEY want to. So if the driver of a car equiped with this feature decides to punch the accelorator to merge with traffic and OnStar decides to reduce the power at the same time, you won't merge very nicely. Now some will say that OnStar won't activate this feature unless asked to do so by the police, but that doesn't rule out accidental or unplanned activation. IMHO they have inserted yet another weak link in an already weak dependability chain.
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so...
by satvic
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Nov 25, 2007 (9:26 pm)
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I understood So, in this case my question is: is there smth in the system that can fail and cause the loss of power EVEN IN CASE where the Onstar was never installed on this particular car to begin with? Shouldn't there be some kind of plug to complete the circuit bypassing OnStar device features? any idea what it'd look like if it exists?
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Re: so... [satvic]
by ficuss
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Nov 26, 2007 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: satvic (Nov 25, 2007 9:26 pm)
there are numerous conditions which would cause the engine to run at reduced power, all of which are by design. I would recommend taking a very close look at all of your gauges when this happens and report every item to the mechanic. How fast were you going, which gear was the car in, were you towing something, etc. Get a printout from the mechanic of all the possible reasons for programmed, reduced engine power. Then think of what may apply to your particular situation.
One more thing, do a search of "reduced engine power" in the Ranier, Trailblazer, Envoy forum and see if anything sounds similar.
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Re: 04 Chevy Trailblazer - Loss of power & Stalling [satvic]
by bigbassguy1
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Nov 27, 2007 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: satvic (Sep 17, 2007 9:31 pm)
I've experienced the same with my 02 TB. The intermitten power loss , sometimes causing the engin to stall, was due to a O2 sensor. I've had it replaced three times, the last being about a year and a half now. The sensor was so corroded and in bad condition (supposedly due to water leaking onto it??) it was very difficult to replace.
I've had no major problems since, other than the fact the SES light stays on all the time. Even after being reset. I seriously put black tape over it.
I have 120K miles on it now.
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Re: 04 Chevy Trailblazer - Loss of power & Stalling [bigbassguy1]
by satvic
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Nov 27, 2007 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: bigbassguy1 (Nov 27, 2007 10:29 am)
i gotta try this cause every time I drive in rainy weather my engine light comes on. as soon as it dries up, light goes away. I wonder if it that's the same O2 sensor .. do you know how many are there? where is the one you've been replacing is located at? thanx so much
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