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#27 of 93
Focus evolution by creakid1
Jan 28, 2008 (7:55 pm)
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Are you sure the '08 US model looks anything like a Focus? The lack of available telescopic steering is telling you something.
 
Here's what real Focus' are suppose to look like...
 
MkI (facelifted to look like MkII):
 
http://www.gulfcoastnews.com/RT2005FordFocus.htm
 
MkII (watch out for the bulky width wider than the 6-ft wide Lexus LS430):
 
http://www.forddesktops.com/show.asp?f=focus&i=European_Ford_Focus_Mk2_Saloon_01- - - .jpg
 
http://roadtest.u-car.com.tw/roadtest-detail.asp?rid=305
 
MkII (facelifted to look like MkIII):
 
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=231597
 
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=239619
 
MkIII:
 
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=239622
 
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=239616
(I think the rear visibility of the new hatch is gonna suck)
 
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=239613
 
But looks like the 2.3 will not come back , while the next Mazda3 will soldier on with the 4-cyl 2.3 enlarged to 2.5 (That's very Porsche 944-ish ):
http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/1Ahu7gsPvEcaEAu
 
Don't worry, the Verve's looks alone will kill the sales of the current American-invented Focus. & we will be getting the MkIII real Focus in a few years -- at least the sedan version.
 
The Verve sedan may look beautiful -- no doubt about it, but the the lack of sophisticated rear multi-link suspension won't ride beautifully -- just check out the (un) Fit ride quality as you down grade from the Civic.
 
So the Verve is no substitute for the compact-size C-170 MkI Focus. Unless the MkIII Focus will trim down the excessive bulky width off the MkII, I'll stick w/ my '07 MkI Focus 2.3 ST forever Watch me blasting my 2.3 low-end torque out of corners w/ Quaife LSD...
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Press Request by KarenS HOST
Jan 31, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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A reporter seeks to interview buyers of models equipped with Ford Sync. Please respond to jfallonedmunds.com no later than Friday, February 1 with your daytime contact information and a sentence or two about why you purchased Sync.
#31 of 93
Re: 2008 Ford Focus [greenpony] by creakid1
Feb 16, 2008 (4:03 pm)
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Replying to: greenpony (Nov 21, 2007 11:17 am)

"Just because the platform is (almost) ten years old doesn't mean it is a bad platform. The Mustang ran on the same Fox chassis for 15 years, then on a modified version of that for another 11. So is nine years for an economy car really that bad?"
 
Nine years for any car really isn't bad at all, especially if the platform was way ahead of its time to begin with.
 
But wait a minute here. How dare you comparing this stone-age fossil -- the Mustang platform -- to the highly advanced C-170 Focus platform engineered in Germany? In fact, it was so advanced that BMW was drooling & almost bought the platform!
 
& I can't believe how arrogant Americans are when comes to their own automobile technological advancement. How the hell did this old Mustang, when using the same Nissan engine, kick-ass a Nissan Z-car w/ a modern Japanese platform on twisty roads doing drifts in this Hollywood movie Tokyo Drift!
 
Since the '70's, the Mustang rides on an enlarged Pinto platform. Today's new Mustang rides on the Jaguar S-type platform but still using the solid rear axle, which is good for nothing except drag racing & other brawn-but-no-brain behaviors.
 
So the ignorant Americans should not perceive the German-engineered Focus as a modern-day Pinto, as it has nothing to do with it. The Mustang does.
 
Now if you don't care about the sophisticated Control Blade rear suspension in the German-engineered Focus, then a solid-axle V8 Focus may suit the taste of those who are still proud of the Mustang platform:
http://www.kugelkomponents.com/focus/focus.html
 
When was the last time you saw James Bond driving a Mustang? Today, James Bond drives the new Mondeo, which rides on an enlarged Focus platform:
http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RdJOBzwDY0I/AAAAAAAACv0/cUafR5XFwiE/s1600-h/- - - cARSCOOP_Ford_Mondeo_307.jpg
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And the kicker is! by mschmal
Feb 20, 2008 (10:42 am)
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"Today's new Mustang rides on the Jaguar S-type platform but still using the solid rear axle"
 
This statement is not quite correct. The Jag S/LincolnLS platform known as DEW proved way to expensive for the Mustang. After struggling to engineer the cost down to make it viable to use in the Mustang, Ford decided to adopt components from other Ford platforms, especially in the suspension department.
 
So where did Ford find the suspension components that eventually went into the 2005 Mustang?...Why from the European C1 Focus platform.
 
Mark.
 
The Mustang platform is...You guessed it, based on the
#33 of 93
Pinto? by creakid1
Feb 22, 2008 (5:19 pm)
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Still?
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Future of Ford depends on enlarged Pinto? by creakid1
Feb 22, 2008 (10:33 pm)
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How about the enlarged Focus -- the new Mondeo -- sold else where, where our Focus ST's 2.3 4-cyl Duratec (Porsche-designed block, finished by Mazda) lives on. Note: not to be confused w/ the 2.3 in the Pinto
 
http://www.caradvice.com.au/7274/2008-ford-mondeo-details/
 
Scroll down to see the light-grey sedan available w/ Volvo's 5-cyl turbo (Nice wheels, eh?).
 
Actually we can still get this super-sized Focus platform in the form of the new Volvo S80, Ford Edge & Mazda CX-9
#36 of 93
Before '08, by creakid1
Feb 24, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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our Focus still feels like a German-design car riding on a German platform.
 
The Mazda3 feels like a Japanese-design car riding on a German platform.
 
The S40/V50 feels like a Swedish-design car riding on a German platform.
 
I just had a chance sitting in the '08 American Focus sedan when I went to p/u my '07 Focus ST after some warranty work. The exterior & interior styling issues of the '08 didn't bother me much, but the difference in the quality of the interior is quite dramatic...
 
Front seating: The interior door handle, located ahead of the pwr window switches, is too far away. The center armrest is too low. Combining w/ the lack of telescopic steering column, the driving position doesn't even fit me! The inside rearview mirror shows a more restrictive rear vision. The looks & tactile feel of the crudely designed & styled plastic buttons feel very low rent & "un-German". & "Ouch!" as I exited the driver seat, my left knee cap was hit by the plastic protrusion from the lower left part of the dash.
 
Rear seating: The outer parts of the headliner force the outer 2 passengers to tilt the head toward the center of the car. The foot space underneath the front chair was restrictively narrow. & the front seat back's extra knee clearance extended so far above the real knee level that it looked stupid.
 
The whole interior engineering is as unsophisticated as the original Dodge Neon. Starting '08, our Focus feels like a American-design car riding on a German platform.

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