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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [sotis]
by blackexv6
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Sep 17, 2007 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: sotis (Sep 17, 2007 3:08 pm)
Why are Honda cars noisy with Michelins and no other manufacturer?
Maybe its the car & not the tires?
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [blackexv6]
by elroy5
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Sep 17, 2007 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: blackexv6 (Sep 17, 2007 3:32 pm)
The noise definitely has something to do with the car. Maybe it's the shape of the wheel wells, the chassis, or just a lack of soundproofing. I can vouch for the fact that there are much quieter tires than the Michelin MXV4 Energy tires. the Energys were designed, it seems to maximize mileage. The tires I replaced them with are much quieter. I lost 2-3mpg, but I can live with that. The noise, and wet grip were terrible with the MXV4s.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [blackexv6]
by robertsmx
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Sep 18, 2007 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: blackexv6 (Sep 17, 2007 3:32 pm)
It is both. Honda doesn't design the car to completely isolate the driver from the world outside. And it limits the options to drastically reduce road noise. It is a fair trade off, although, they are quieter every generation.
Tires can make a big difference. The stock Michelins are expensive, last for a long time but they hate certain road surfaces (usually old-ish concrete/tar). Every other tire I have had on my 98 Accord since the original has made the cabin quieter and comparable to the quietest cars in the class without giving up the Accord attributes. The car still tracks like I want, and handles well. Mileage has never been a disappointment.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [robertsmx]
by grampy1
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Sep 18, 2007 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 18, 2007 7:37 am)
Interesting comments. I bought a 2007 with a V-6 recently, and it has Michelin mxm4 tires and they are the nosiest tires on any highway i drive. I'm very disappointed as these tires cost ~$200 each. I know Michelin are good tires,but they are a horrible match on the Accord for any year.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [grampy1]
by robertsmx
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Sep 18, 2007 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: grampy1 (Sep 18, 2007 12:37 pm)
Michelins are probably the best quality tires, and they are reliable too. But expensive, a good thing, because it will give you an incentive to go for something different (quieter/sportier) once the stock tires wear out.
The hate, especially, shiny/broken road surfaces. Don't offer good grip either. I have had other kind of disappointments with other brands though. Some were exceptionally quiet and drastically improved steering at the same time, but wore off too quickly (soft compound). It was one of the Yokohamas (forgot the model).
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [robertsmx]
by elroy5
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Sep 18, 2007 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 18, 2007 1:51 pm)
Checking the specs on tires when I was shopping for replacements on my 03, I found out a few things. The michelin MXV4 Energy tires are lightweight, and have low rolling resistance. They perform well on dry pavement, but not good at all on wet pavement. They are also very noisy on expansion joints and course pavement. The lightweight construction also makes them vulnerable to road hazards. After 16 years driving Accords with MXV4 tires as original equipment on 2 separate cars, I find the michelins to be the least durable of all the tires I've had on them. The tires I decided on for replacements were Bridgestone Turanza's, and as soon as I left the parking lot, I could tell the difference. It felt like the tires were sticky, and it seemed like it took more effort to get them rolling. But on corners and rough roads they are much quieter. On wet roads they are superb. They are also heavier, and with more rolling resistance, I get about 2-3mpg less than with the michelins. Even with the drop in mileage, I think these tires are an improvement.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [elroy5]
by robertsmx
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Sep 19, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Sep 18, 2007 3:37 pm)
I have Turanzas on my 98 Accord, and agree with you. It does seem to have a higher rolling resistance which I was attributing to age of my car. There is a stretch on my commute where I let the throttle go a few yards before entering a low speed ramp, and Accord used to carry greater speed into the ramp but it doesn’t with the Bridgestones. I have not noticed any drop in mileage however, averaging 26-27 mpg on each tank with mixed driving. 25-26 mpg has been the lifetime average with half and half (city/highway).
I didn’t see Michelins as being prone to road hazards in fact, quite the opposite. On the other hand, my move away from Yokohama was triggered by that fact (and lower life, given my driving style).
But I have never seen a worse tire than the set in a (rental) Sienna. I went over a pothole that I have several times in my cars, and heard the air being lost. The AAA guy the rental company sent told me that it was a common problem. Based on my experience, I’m assuming softer compound tires are quieter but more prone to road hazards.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [robertsmx]
by elroy5
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Sep 19, 2007 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 19, 2007 7:33 am)
None of my michelins ever lasted until the tread was worn. A bulge from hitting a pothole, or sharp rock (yes, a rock, and it was not all that sharp) went right through it, or something else would always do them in. I used Goodyears and Dunlops after that, and they held up better than the Michelins did. I just have no confidence in them anymore, especially for the price.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [elroy5]
by robr2
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Sep 20, 2007 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Sep 19, 2007 2:09 pm)
I concur - I've never replaced Michelins due to wear. It's always been due to road damage.
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2008 Accord noise
by stuartfl
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Sep 27, 2007 (3:02 pm)
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My EX I4 is just as quiet on the road as the 2005 Camry I sold. I always put Michelins on my Volvos and never had a problem. When I drove the 08 Camry SE, which I almost bought, I didn't think it was all that quiet. Plus the cheap feeling interior on the Camry made the test drive less pleasant than the Accord. Granted, I have only had the Accord for a week but so far my commute on I95 here in So Florida has been extremely enjoyable.
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