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2008 Accord noisy?
by bearwithmoi
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Sep 17, 2007 (1:49 pm)
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We're looking for a new car and test drove a 2008 Accord last weekend. We loved the "cockpit" dashboard and the nav system. But we thought that both the engine (a 4 cylinder) and the wind noise was very loud. Has anyone had a similar experience? We test drove a Camry and a Lexus ES350 on the same day - both V6, and neither seemed as loud. The engine nosie reminded us of our '97 accord with a manual transmission.
completely new to the car buying experience, so forgive any technical blunders here. We'd go for the Accord, but we were bothered by the noise and the increased length (we park on the street a lot).
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [bearwithmoi]
by robertsmx
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Sep 17, 2007 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: bearwithmoi (Sep 17, 2007 1:49 pm)
Not having driven the Accord yet, I can't comment on the noise (but have read a review from an owner that it is quieter) but given the way Honda tunes the chassis for more connectedness, it will not be as quiet as Toyota/Lexus.
Speaking of length, ES350 and Accord are about the same length, an inch or two is unlikely to make a difference. OTOH, the new Accord's turning diameter has reduced, so it should be as easy, it not easier, to park than the outgoing shorter version.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy?
by sotis
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Sep 17, 2007 (3:08 pm)
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just bought a 2008 ex 4cyl.
Agree that the car is noisy due to the michelin tires.
noticed it especially on rough concrete.Engine is as quiet as my 02
camry and no wind noise when sunroof is closed.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [sotis]
by blackexv6
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Sep 17, 2007 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: sotis (Sep 17, 2007 3:08 pm)
Why are Honda cars noisy with Michelins and no other manufacturer?
Maybe its the car & not the tires?
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [blackexv6]
by elroy5
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Sep 17, 2007 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: blackexv6 (Sep 17, 2007 3:32 pm)
The noise definitely has something to do with the car. Maybe it's the shape of the wheel wells, the chassis, or just a lack of soundproofing. I can vouch for the fact that there are much quieter tires than the Michelin MXV4 Energy tires. the Energys were designed, it seems to maximize mileage. The tires I replaced them with are much quieter. I lost 2-3mpg, but I can live with that. The noise, and wet grip were terrible with the MXV4s.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [blackexv6]
by robertsmx
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Sep 18, 2007 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: blackexv6 (Sep 17, 2007 3:32 pm)
It is both. Honda doesn't design the car to completely isolate the driver from the world outside. And it limits the options to drastically reduce road noise. It is a fair trade off, although, they are quieter every generation.
Tires can make a big difference. The stock Michelins are expensive, last for a long time but they hate certain road surfaces (usually old-ish concrete/tar). Every other tire I have had on my 98 Accord since the original has made the cabin quieter and comparable to the quietest cars in the class without giving up the Accord attributes. The car still tracks like I want, and handles well. Mileage has never been a disappointment.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [robertsmx]
by grampy1
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Sep 18, 2007 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 18, 2007 7:37 am)
Interesting comments. I bought a 2007 with a V-6 recently, and it has Michelin mxm4 tires and they are the nosiest tires on any highway i drive. I'm very disappointed as these tires cost ~$200 each. I know Michelin are good tires,but they are a horrible match on the Accord for any year.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [grampy1]
by robertsmx
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Sep 18, 2007 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: grampy1 (Sep 18, 2007 12:37 pm)
Michelins are probably the best quality tires, and they are reliable too. But expensive, a good thing, because it will give you an incentive to go for something different (quieter/sportier) once the stock tires wear out.
The hate, especially, shiny/broken road surfaces. Don't offer good grip either. I have had other kind of disappointments with other brands though. Some were exceptionally quiet and drastically improved steering at the same time, but wore off too quickly (soft compound). It was one of the Yokohamas (forgot the model).
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [robertsmx]
by elroy5
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Sep 18, 2007 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 18, 2007 1:51 pm)
Checking the specs on tires when I was shopping for replacements on my 03, I found out a few things. The michelin MXV4 Energy tires are lightweight, and have low rolling resistance. They perform well on dry pavement, but not good at all on wet pavement. They are also very noisy on expansion joints and course pavement. The lightweight construction also makes them vulnerable to road hazards. After 16 years driving Accords with MXV4 tires as original equipment on 2 separate cars, I find the michelins to be the least durable of all the tires I've had on them. The tires I decided on for replacements were Bridgestone Turanza's, and as soon as I left the parking lot, I could tell the difference. It felt like the tires were sticky, and it seemed like it took more effort to get them rolling. But on corners and rough roads they are much quieter. On wet roads they are superb. They are also heavier, and with more rolling resistance, I get about 2-3mpg less than with the michelins. Even with the drop in mileage, I think these tires are an improvement.
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Re: 2008 Accord noisy? [elroy5]
by robertsmx
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Sep 19, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Sep 18, 2007 3:37 pm)
I have Turanzas on my 98 Accord, and agree with you. It does seem to have a higher rolling resistance which I was attributing to age of my car. There is a stretch on my commute where I let the throttle go a few yards before entering a low speed ramp, and Accord used to carry greater speed into the ramp but it doesn’t with the Bridgestones. I have not noticed any drop in mileage however, averaging 26-27 mpg on each tank with mixed driving. 25-26 mpg has been the lifetime average with half and half (city/highway).
I didn’t see Michelins as being prone to road hazards in fact, quite the opposite. On the other hand, my move away from Yokohama was triggered by that fact (and lower life, given my driving style).
But I have never seen a worse tire than the set in a (rental) Sienna. I went over a pothole that I have several times in my cars, and heard the air being lost. The AAA guy the rental company sent told me that it was a common problem. Based on my experience, I’m assuming softer compound tires are quieter but more prone to road hazards.
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