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Will the Chevy Volt Succeed?

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Re: Yes .... [tpe] by aspesisteve
Jan 31, 2008 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: tpe (Jan 30, 2008 5:51 am)

"Which of GM's hybrids are you talking about?"
 
I guess the Volt would be a good start if you want to call it a hybrid.
Then there is the Chevy Maibu Hybrid.
And there was a truck hybrid they introduced last year which didn't provide much.
 
Just because GM admitted to their own blunder by pulling the plug on their Electric Car, doesn't make their black eye go away. Not until they bring something of substance to the market.
 
The two hybrid system sounds great? When can the public buy it?
 
I think GM is out promoting themselves as green when they really don't have anything hybrid worthy to offer yet. Are they hoping people will put off leaving for another manufacturer who have better options here and now?
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Re: Yes .... [aspesisteve] by tpe
Jan 31, 2008 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jan 31, 2008 10:25 am)

Toyota also pulled the plug on the RAV4 EV. Do they still have a black eye?
 
The Chevy Volt is not a hybrid, it's an EV. Hybrid implies a blend of multiple drive systems. The Chevy Volt will use only electric motors for it's propulsion. It simply carries along a generator for recharging.
 
My understanding was that the Yukon/Tahoe hybrids are available to the public in very limited quantities. Kind of like the Prius when it first came out. And someone looking for a full sized SUV hybrid does not have better options here and now.
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Re: Yes .... [tpe] by aspesisteve
Jan 31, 2008 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: tpe (Jan 31, 2008 11:33 am)

does Toyota have a black eye?
in the world of delivering hybrids to the masses?
 
no, not at all. not in my opinion
 
toyota is the darling of the green movement.
 
maybe they got lucky? maybe they had better vision? maybe they are a better run company?
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Re: Yes .... [aspesisteve] by tpe
Jan 31, 2008 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jan 31, 2008 11:39 am)

toyota is the darling of the green movement
 
I agree with you there. That is primarily a reflection of how perception/image trumps reality. That's why GM regrets not pursuing hybrids earlier. They didn't appreciate how valuable this "green image" is. It doesn't matter whether you are really green just so long as your perceived to be. In that sense the Prius became a Halo car. It didn't matter whether or not they made money on the vehicle or whether or not Toyota was improving the fuel efficiency of their fleet. People now identified Toyota with the Prius and that's all that mattered.
 
On the reality side, which often times goes unnoticed. Toyota was right there with the domestics in lobbying against the proposal to increase CAFE standards. They also joined in the lawsuit to try to fight California's mandate to limit CO2 emissions. Their fleet mpg is lower than it was in 1980 because like everyone else they continue to increase the size and power of their vehicles. It just doesn't matter because when people think of Toyota they think of the Prius, not the Land Cruiser, the Tundra or a 268 horsepower Camry.
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Re: Yes .... [aspesisteve] by tpe
Feb 01, 2008 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jan 29, 2008 9:10 pm)

Apparently nobody told these cities that GM's hybrid technology is junk, they are all talk and no walk and they only sell promises. It seems that had these cities known this they would be buying their hybrid buses from Toyota.
 
hybrid buses
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Price rising by pf_flyer HOST
Mar 02, 2008 (7:04 am)
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Still working out kinks in the Volt like powering the windshield wipers. Talk about biting off more than you can chew. But it makes for a day's blog entry
 
Beat To The Punch?
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Re: Price rising [pf_flyer] by gagrice
Mar 02, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Mar 02, 2008 7:04 am)

Just how much power will a 500 watt sound system use, not to mention AC, Windows, etc?? I thought it was a hybrid of sorts. Is it pure EV?
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Re: Price rising [pf_flyer] by tpe
Mar 03, 2008 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Mar 02, 2008 7:04 am)

The ICE vehicle that I drive has a cooling system for the engine. Is that a workaround or a solution?
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Re: Price rising [gagrice] by tpe
Mar 03, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 02, 2008 8:00 am)

Just how much power will a 500 watt sound system use
 
What a sound system is rated at is meaningless. If you are really putting 500 watts through your vehicle's sound system I can pretty much guarantee that you are now deaf. I'd guess that most people play their audio systems at a level that uses less than 5 watts.
 
AC will probably represent a significant drain on an EV's range. I know that my vehicle's mileage is 3-5% less when I'm running AC. So an EV will use more electricity just like an ICE uses more gas.
 
The Volt is not a hybrid. It is an EV that carries along its own generator for recharging. So under conditions that use a lot of electricity the generator will be kicking in a little sooner. At which point how much electricity is being used is no more relevant than it is in an ICE vehicle.

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