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545 messages, Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 12:57 PM
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| I'm driving 33 miles each way through a lot of hills. If anyone at GM wants some real world testing done....I'll be glad to help. Company I'm working for will gladly give me a plug so I'm running a full charge each direction. | |
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Replying to: larsb (Aug 11, 2009 6:28 am) I suppose if they can claim such mileage, I should claim that my old truck gets 50 mpg because if I start at the top of a large hill and drive 5 miles to the bottom, I will use roughly 1/10 gallon of gas. Extrapolate out, and I can clearly show I got 50 miles per gallon.
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Replying to: stovebolter (Aug 11, 2009 4:43 pm) COULD the Volt travel 230 miles and use one gallon of gas? Perhaps, but you'd have roughly 5 or 6 stops in the trip to recharge the battery. If I even want to only make a 60 mile trip, this mileage claim is going right out the window. Informal survey: Would your every day driving requirements hypothetically allow you to run a Volt on basically battery only and get 230 MPG? No way for me. I used to work exclusively out of my house. Round trip to the grocery store is 16 miles for me. Being that it was that far, I tend to combine trips and go to all the places I might need to go in one trip to save gas. That usually meant 50-60 miles in a day. The wife drives 38 miles one way to work. That's not even counting things like "having a life" I've had my 2007 Versa for 30 months now. It has over 59,000 miles on it. That's about 65 miles per day on average. That Volt ICE would be running. They've jumped the shark with this mileage claim. |
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Aug 12, 2009 2:54 am) Someone just driving around town will likely do significantly better than my situation above. A cold start in city driving with a gas engine burns gobs of fuel which the electric/hybrids mitigate drastically. I don’t think these are cars for everyone, but I think they could have a lot of benefit to users that understand basics of the benefits and pitfalls. Back when I was commuting 30k miles a year, I ran a VW Jetta TDI which I’ll be the first to say is not the perfect car for everyone. However, I was able to make it the perfect car for me and benefit greatly from it. I’m not sure where I am on the Volt but I think it has a lot more potential then anything I’ve seen yet. The prior electrics have either been too compromised or not near enough range to give me the comfort level I would need to buy one. I still don’t think I could own one as my only vehicle but I’m sure there are many that could. |
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Aug 12, 2009 2:54 am) What's the mileage on THAT? 1,000,000 miles per gallon? |
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Aug 12, 2009 2:54 am) GM estimates 8 kilowatt-hours of electricity usage for a full recharge. 8 kwh x 6 cents / kwh = $0.48. Would your every day driving requirements hypothetically allow you to run a Volt on basically battery only and get 230 MPG? I'd be able to run on battery only quite often. My basic commute is about 16 miles roundtrip (although there are days when I have to commute twice or, infrequently, even three times in a given day). It still wouldn't make the Volt's purchase price cost-effective. |
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Replying to: corvette (Aug 12, 2009 10:32 am) So if purchase price is $42K, you will only pay $34,500. Will make a big difference in payments for people watching their budgets. |
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Replying to: larsb (Aug 12, 2009 10:37 am) Just make sure after all your normal deductions your tax bill is still >$7,500 otherwise you'll be SOL. I know a few folks that ended up getting screwed out of there hybrid tax credits last year. This means most will need at least $50,000 in taxable income to take the full benefit and that's assuming no other tax credits...like the child credit, etc. Also, resale value can play into the upfront cost unless you plan to own the thing forever (not me). The Prius, Jetta TDI, and other fuel efficient vehicles tend to have very strong resale. Historically anyway. I'm guessing as more and more fuel efficient vehicles hit the streets...the older stuff might take it on the chin. |
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