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Replying to: pf_flyer (Jul 26, 2009 7:12 am) |
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GM seems to be dodging the AC effecting range question. Nick explains that the test cycles include “a standard set of accessory loads,” but that “air conditioning is not included.” He says the testing “also assumes a 60 F to 65 F degree I would think it would be very easy to figure it in. Makes me think it might be a pretty good drain. http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/24/the-chevy-volts-electric-range-is-40-miles-in-both- -highway-and-city-driving/
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Replying to: gorpzorp (Aug 01, 2009 12:46 pm) It's one thing to try and report numbers based on "average" conditions. It's a little different when you give numbers "under ideal conditions"
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Aug 01, 2009 5:00 pm) I am not really sure if the comparison to a standard car works for AC affecting mpg. For the Insight I was reading on a blog that the AC really harms mileage...a lot more so than the standard car. AC uses a similar amount of power, but in a car built for ultra efficiency the relative loss could be much more. I don't use AC that much so it wouldn't be a huge deal in any case. I tend to think if it was a good number they would have released it already. The car could be brought up (or down) to temperature on the grid before heading out, if it was adapted to do so. I doubt the first model will have this feature. Some enterprising person could come up with something to handle it as a add-on. |
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Say what? GM Says New Electric Car Gets 230 Miles Per Gallon General Motors announced today that its forthcoming electric vehicle, the Chevrolet Volt, will achieve city fuel economy of 230 miles per gallon, under testing that used draft federal fuel economy methodology standards for plug-in cars. The Volt will become the first mass-produced vehicle to obtain a triple-digit MPG rating, the company said. "The Volt is becoming very real, very fast," chief executive Fritz Henderson said. "The price of oil is going to go up." The announcement of the mileage breakthrough comes after the government-rescued automaker received some strong criticism for failing to have more fuel-efficient cars.
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| I'm driving 33 miles each way through a lot of hills. If anyone at GM wants some real world testing done....I'll be glad to help. Company I'm working for will gladly give me a plug so I'm running a full charge each direction. | |
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Replying to: larsb (Aug 11, 2009 6:28 am) I suppose if they can claim such mileage, I should claim that my old truck gets 50 mpg because if I start at the top of a large hill and drive 5 miles to the bottom, I will use roughly 1/10 gallon of gas. Extrapolate out, and I can clearly show I got 50 miles per gallon.
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Replying to: stovebolter (Aug 11, 2009 4:43 pm) COULD the Volt travel 230 miles and use one gallon of gas? Perhaps, but you'd have roughly 5 or 6 stops in the trip to recharge the battery. If I even want to only make a 60 mile trip, this mileage claim is going right out the window. Informal survey: Would your every day driving requirements hypothetically allow you to run a Volt on basically battery only and get 230 MPG? No way for me. I used to work exclusively out of my house. Round trip to the grocery store is 16 miles for me. Being that it was that far, I tend to combine trips and go to all the places I might need to go in one trip to save gas. That usually meant 50-60 miles in a day. The wife drives 38 miles one way to work. That's not even counting things like "having a life" I've had my 2007 Versa for 30 months now. It has over 59,000 miles on it. That's about 65 miles per day on average. That Volt ICE would be running. They've jumped the shark with this mileage claim. |
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Aug 12, 2009 2:54 am) Someone just driving around town will likely do significantly better than my situation above. A cold start in city driving with a gas engine burns gobs of fuel which the electric/hybrids mitigate drastically. I don’t think these are cars for everyone, but I think they could have a lot of benefit to users that understand basics of the benefits and pitfalls. Back when I was commuting 30k miles a year, I ran a VW Jetta TDI which I’ll be the first to say is not the perfect car for everyone. However, I was able to make it the perfect car for me and benefit greatly from it. I’m not sure where I am on the Volt but I think it has a lot more potential then anything I’ve seen yet. The prior electrics have either been too compromised or not near enough range to give me the comfort level I would need to buy one. I still don’t think I could own one as my only vehicle but I’m sure there are many that could. |
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