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Will the Chevy Volt Succeed?

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Cruzing to Congress by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 04, 2008 (5:15 am)
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http://www.freep.com/article/20081203/BUSINESS01/81203081
WASHINGTON — General Motors Corp. will press a Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid prototype into service Thursday on Capitol Hill, where GM Chairman Rick Wagoner will use a prototype to emphasize the company’s technology.
 
GM spokesman Greg Martin said Wagoner will drive a prototype Volt wearing the sheet metal of the upcoming Chevrolet Cruze to the Senate committee hearing on the company’s request for $18 billion in emergency loans.
 
How much does this help the Volt? Does it not help that it will be a Volt in Cruze's clothing??
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Higher prices = less attractive? by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 04, 2008 (6:21 am)
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http://blogs.edmunds.com/greencaradvisor/2008/12/november-hybrid-sales-plunge-as- -gas-prices-fall-credit-tightens.html
Sales of hybrid cars and SUVs took a worse beating than the industry as a whole in November, plummeting 50 percent from a year earlier and off 24.8 percent from October
 
This is part of the reason I have trouble seeing the Volt as a savior for GM. I don't see throngs of people flocking to buy a $40,000 vehicle.
 
Now to look on the brighter side, the declaration that the recession started in Dec 2007 could be looked on as good news as the average length of a recession is about 14 months, putting us closer to turnaround times.
 
It doesn't take much to start the emotional pendulum swinging. If it starts being reported or projected that there IS a light at the end of the tunnel, the mindset of consumers will start to change. Will be interesting to see how specific GM's plans are as far as when they see a return to profitability.
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Does GM even get to the Volt? by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 24, 2008 (10:26 am)
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I know they're saying that it's full steam ahead on the Volt, but doesn't reality slap them in the face and say that the first thing GM needs to do is get the business under control before they start making a $40,000 car that frankly is going to have limited appeal to the general car buying public?
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Re: Does GM even get to the Volt? [pf_flyer] by michael2003
Jan 27, 2009 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Dec 24, 2008 10:26 am)

Limited appeal?
 
This could still be a significant number of customers.
 
While GM used information indicating that ~80% of people have a 40 mi. or less commute to work, does anyone have a more targeted criteria that might take into account how many folks might have access to a recharge station or how many might be be expected to have an income that would allow them to afford this vehicle.
 
I would speculate that a significant portion of the population live in apartments/condo's, without access to a plug, and without sufficient income to afford the vehicle. I think it's more likely that folks with sufficient funds and access to a plug (garage) probably have a longer commute, meaning that GM could increase it's target audience by having a greater electric only range battery as an option.
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Re: Does GM even get to the Volt? [michael2003] by reddroverr
Jan 28, 2009 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: michael2003 (Jan 27, 2009 6:38 am)

It isn't the perfect car. Prices will have to come down. I think if it and other ev types start hitting the streets you will see a move towards more charging options. It isn't likely to be the car for the average apartment dweller. But, if thins pick up, I could see incentives via the govt and market incentives for adding a charging station to your public parking lot, or private motel or apartment off street parking.
 
Maybe the next generation does have options for larger batteries. The trade-offs in cost for this probably don't work at the moment. Most families have two or more cars. If the option costs less than say $7k...it will probably make financial sense as well as foreign oil or greenie sense..
  
http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16769
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Price and Place of Manufacturing by dmathews3
Feb 14, 2009 (7:38 am)
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The price is a little high for some but I could have saved a lot of money in gas as neither the wife or I drive more than 20 miles one way most of the year. A few trips to see the kids and a vacation would be the only times 99% of the time. I had my heart and pocketbook set on the Volt but not if it isn't built in the U.S. Most Big 3 employees won't buy a non UAW made car and let me tell you we buy a lot of cars.
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A little high? by pf_flyer HOST
Feb 15, 2009 (7:21 am)
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$40K is more than a little high for a vehicle of limited range that, despite claims that it will suit the needs of a large portion of the population, simply isn't going to be a practical vehicle for most of us.
 
Anyone who has kids that do anything is not going for a Volt. Picking up from practices, running around to games and activities, there's no way I could use an electric vehicle with limited range. And I'm certainly not going to shell out $40K for a second car to use it as a grocery getter.
 
It may be fashionable to be gung-ho on electric vehicles, but enthusiasm alone doesn't make them practical.
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Re: A little high? [pf_flyer] by dmathews3
Feb 15, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Feb 15, 2009 7:21 am)

I was under the impression tha this car could go all the way across the country by using the gas engine to keep the batteries charged. If not what is the since of the gas engine? There would be no sense in even putting it in if it wasn't going to be used to keep the car going beyond the 40 miles.
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Re: A little high? [pf_flyer] by corvette
Feb 15, 2009 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Feb 15, 2009 7:21 am)

You know the Volt also has a gasoline engine that will allow it to run several hundred miles, right? After the battery is low, the gas engine (generator) kicks in to provide power for the electric motor.
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Re: A little high? [corvette] by dmathews3
Feb 15, 2009 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: corvette (Feb 15, 2009 8:09 am)

That was my impression too. Also whoever is spreading the word of the Volt being built in England is I think way wrong. Everything I can find says at the Detroit plant that builds Buicks and Caddys. The engines at first come from over seas until the new Flint engine plant is done plus the batteries are also now going to be made in Mich. So why would they make a bunch of the parts and I also bet stampings for the fenders etc. here in the USA and then send everything to England to be assembled. Don't make much sense to me.

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