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First Look Available by KarenS HOST
Sep 23, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Article Comments - 2011 Chevy Volt First Look
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Re: [2doorpost] by mikey38
Sep 23, 2008 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: 2doorpost (Sep 20, 2008 6:33 am)

"Thats what I dont understand- the gas miliage that I get on my 05 Chevy far outstrips a new one. What happened in three years time? "
 
 When you read many of the posts in the forums you'll see a common thread of....we need bigger cars, more horsepower, etc. Detroit builds what people ask for.
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See this post by larsb
Sep 23, 2008 (9:42 am)
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People are not looking at the new thread so here is a link
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Re: Wake up [larsb] by reddroverr
Sep 23, 2008 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 23, 2008 5:56 am)

1. Move closer to work
 
I think people will/are trying to do that. But with two workers in a family, the frequency of job changes these days, limitatiions of moving while owning a home and the prices of in-city houses, I think it is limited. Other ideas are four day work weeks and more telecommuting.
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2. Use an EV or PHEV as their commute vehicle
 
.I am in the camp that thinks partial use vehicles will have a problem for some time. Listening to the nay sayers on EVs, we find that range limitations are the prime negative...well that and price. If you have a PHEV and/or whatever we call a Volt, it is pretty much an all purpose sedan. That said if you could make an BOEV that functions like a real car and has a range of 75+ miles you would probably find a decent amount of takers...assuming you can make it for a price that rivals or beats a cheap subcompact
 
3. Rent a gasoline-powered car or SUV ONLY when they need to take a trip.
 
Or just keep their current vehicle as a backup...but in the case of the Volt, you have a sedan for such purposes...one that will get great gas mileage on your trips and save the expense of renting.
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Re: Wake up [reddroverr] by larsb
Sep 23, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: reddroverr (Sep 23, 2008 9:54 am)

There is a movement afoot in some larger cities to make downtown more "livable" and attract residents who work downtown.
 
It will gain more of a foothold now that gas prices are up. It is a real advantage to live a few blocks from where you work and be able to live without a car.
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Not that excited by giny1
Sep 23, 2008 (11:38 am)
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Let's talk about the Volts competitor! Nissan is working with NEC and has produced a battery with a 300 miles charge and it's been tested to last over 150,000 miles so far.... and will be in their 2011 Electric vehicle priced $10,000 less than the Volt. The Nissan/NEC partnership will create mass production and Nissan will be launching over a 1/2 dozen other models into the N. American market by 2012. It's time for GM to look to those creating proven and successful batteries and work on a Electric Vehicle we can actually afford. More details on the companyhere “Nissan firmly believes the ultimate solution for sustainable mobility lies in zero emission vehicles. Electric vehicles represent one clear strategic direction embedded in Nissan GT 2012, our new mid-term business plan,” said Carlos Tavares, executive vice president of Nissan.
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Re: Not that excited [giny1] by reddroverr
Sep 23, 2008 (4:49 pm)
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Replying to: giny1 (Sep 23, 2008 11:38 am)

Let's talk about the Volts competitor
 
I'd like to, but they seem to want to keep a narrow focus here. Link to a thread or start one if none are appropriate. I haven't heard about anything with a 300 mile range.
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please dont drive on highway 40 miles by toyota4life
Sep 23, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=132112
 
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Re: please dont drive on highway 40 miles [toyota4life] by reddroverr
Sep 23, 2008 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: toyota4life (Sep 23, 2008 4:51 pm)

From the link:
 
In contrast to popular (and our) impression, once a driver uses up his 40 or so miles of electric power, the 1.4-liter gas engine generates electricity to power the electric drive motor, but does not recharge the batteries.
 
I don't see this as a problem, unless the engine is not powerful enough to fuel the car in all conditions. If the 50 mpg is still valid, then this is just a good nudge to always plug-in. I guess it could make for some wasted energy though.
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I just don't see it... by tlong
Sep 23, 2008 (7:51 pm)
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Let's see.... I can buy a very reliable Prius with a fair amount of room for $23K and get 50mpg.
 
Or I (supposedly) can buy a Volt in a few years for $37K that can go 40 miles if I recharged it with a plug, then I use regular gas. And I wait to charge it. And I pay for the electricity (probably less than gas cost, true).
 
How many miles would I have to drive to make up that ~$14K difference in purchase cost?
 
Sorry, I think GM is toast here.

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