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#339 of 545 Re: Who's laughing now? [dave8697] by coldcranker Sep 22, 2008 (7:43 pm)
Replying to: dave8697 (Sep 22, 2008 11:57 am) "So the Prius outshines the Volt and the Malibu hybrid? "   Yes, the technical and market facts are what they are, regardless of what you want reality to be. Sorry.
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#341 of 545 Re: Wake up [hoyahenry] by tpe Sep 23, 2008 (5:14 am)
Replying to: hoyahenry (Sep 22, 2008 4:13 pm) The fact is that EVs will have limited range compared to ICE powered vehicles. Maybe someday we'll have a network of fast charging stations making this limitation less of a factor but for now it is. So most people that would buy an EV will also own an ICE for longer trips. Is it really better for the environment to have 2 vehicles as opposed to 1? The presence of a range extender in an EV will allow this vehicle to be used far more often, resulting in more electric miles and fewer gasoline miles than had it been a pure EV. So I'd argue that a car like the Volt will do more to reduce fuel consumption than an EV with a 40 mile range. Replies to this message: larsb (Sep 23, 2008 5:56 am) reddroverr (Sep 23, 2008 9:54 am) larsb (Sep 23, 2008 10:15 am)
#342 of 545 Re: Wake up [tpe] by larsb Sep 23, 2008 (5:56 am)
Replying to: tpe (Sep 23, 2008 5:14 am) tpe says, "The fact is that EVs will have limited range compared to ICE powered vehicles."   Not the Volt.   It's an EV and will have a range of 640 miles, per GM. That's more than a lot of gasoline cars.   But I understand you were speaking in generalities and in that respect you are correct - most PURE EVs (no generator on board like the Volt) will definitely have a lower range than ICE vehicles.   But consider this possibility:   Consider that in the future people will do these things to cope with the high price and lower availability of gasoline:   1. Move closer to work. 2. Use an EV or PHEV as their commute vehicle. 3. Rent a gasoline-powered car or SUV ONLY when they need to take a trip.   That would solve a lot of the expected "long term problems" related to converting a whole fleet over to EVs or PHEVs. Replies to this message: reddroverr (Sep 23, 2008 9:54 am) larsb (Sep 23, 2008 10:15 am)
#343 of 545 First Look Available by KarenS HOST Sep 23, 2008 (6:28 am)
Please go to this discussion to post your comments about the article.   Article Comments - 2011 Chevy Volt First Look
#344 of 545 Re: [2doorpost] by mikey38 Sep 23, 2008 (9:13 am)
Replying to: 2doorpost (Sep 20, 2008 6:33 am) "Thats what I dont understand- the gas miliage that I get on my 05 Chevy far outstrips a new one. What happened in three years time? "    When you read many of the posts in the forums you'll see a common thread of....we need bigger cars, more horsepower, etc. Detroit builds what people ask for.
#345 of 545 See this post by larsb Sep 23, 2008 (9:42 am)
People are not looking at the new thread so here is a link
#346 of 545 Re: Wake up [larsb] by reddroverr Sep 23, 2008 (9:54 am)
Replying to: larsb (Sep 23, 2008 5:56 am) 1. Move closer to work   I think people will/are trying to do that. But with two workers in a family, the frequency of job changes these days, limitatiions of moving while owning a home and the prices of in-city houses, I think it is limited. Other ideas are four day work weeks and more telecommuting. . 2. Use an EV or PHEV as their commute vehicle   .I am in the camp that thinks partial use vehicles will have a problem for some time. Listening to the nay sayers on EVs, we find that range limitations are the prime negative...well that and price. If you have a PHEV and/or whatever we call a Volt, it is pretty much an all purpose sedan. That said if you could make an BOEV that functions like a real car and has a range of 75+ miles you would probably find a decent amount of takers...assuming you can make it for a price that rivals or beats a cheap subcompact   3. Rent a gasoline-powered car or SUV ONLY when they need to take a trip.   Or just keep their current vehicle as a backup...but in the case of the Volt, you have a sedan for such purposes...one that will get great gas mileage on your trips and save the expense of renting. Replies to this message: larsb (Sep 23, 2008 10:15 am)
#347 of 545 Re: Wake up [reddroverr] by larsb Sep 23, 2008 (10:15 am)
Replying to: reddroverr (Sep 23, 2008 9:54 am) There is a movement afoot in some larger cities to make downtown more "livable" and attract residents who work downtown.   It will gain more of a foothold now that gas prices are up. It is a real advantage to live a few blocks from where you work and be able to live without a car.
#348 of 545 Not that excited by giny1 Sep 23, 2008 (11:38 am)
Let's talk about the Volts competitor! Nissan is working with NEC and has produced a battery with a 300 miles charge and it's been tested to last over 150,000 miles so far.... and will be in their 2011 Electric vehicle priced $10,000 less than the Volt. The Nissan/NEC partnership will create mass production and Nissan will be launching over a 1/2 dozen other models into the N. American market by 2012. It's time for GM to look to those creating proven and successful batteries and work on a Electric Vehicle we can actually afford. More details on the companyhere “Nissan firmly believes the ultimate solution for sustainable mobility lies in zero emission vehicles. Electric vehicles represent one clear strategic direction embedded in Nissan GT 2012, our new mid-term business plan,” said Carlos Tavares, executive vice president of Nissan. Replies to this message: reddroverr (Sep 23, 2008 4:49 pm)

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