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#324 of 545 Re: Wake up [hoyahenry] by reddroverr Sep 19, 2008 (2:39 pm)
Replying to: hoyahenry (Sep 17, 2008 7:11 pm) I drive it between 7-40 miles per day to/from the park n ride and ride the bus, which costs $3 to get to work. I have no car payment.   With the battery range of 40 miles..for you..it would effectively be an all electric fuel source car. Put some synthetic oil in the engine that you rarely use and be happy. Of course it still has to come out, and you still have to desire and be able to afford it.   If half the cars sold in America used 80%+ less fuel...as the Volt should do...we would really have something.
#325 of 545 Re: Wake up [gagrice] by reddroverr Sep 19, 2008 (2:43 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 18, 2008 4:27 pm) Ya, 200 cars effectively don't really exist in any practical way for the larger population.   Just a pilot test program that may or may not come to anything.
#326 of 545 Re: Wake up [hoyahenry] by tpe Sep 19, 2008 (3:22 pm)
Replying to: hoyahenry (Sep 19, 2008 1:11 pm) If so, you didn't understand the post. Honda is on the right track, GM is not, imho.   Your other posts indicate you are a big proponent of transitioning to an electric fleet. So am I. If the Volt is introduced in 2010 and fuel cell vehicles aren't viable until 2020 (optimistic) how many electric miles will have been logged by GM vehicles compared to Honda? Replies to this message: hoyahenry (Sep 22, 2008 4:13 pm) gagrice (Sep 22, 2008 5:30 pm) tpe (Sep 23, 2008 5:14 am) larsb (Sep 23, 2008 5:56 am) and 2 more...
#327 of 545 Re: [2doorpost] by dave8697 Sep 20, 2008 (3:19 am)
Replying to: 2doorpost (Sep 19, 2008 6:14 am) credibility based on what they did in 1984? I'm glad my last mortgage application didn't ask me for my 1984 stats.    Following Hollywood's lead is elitist to me.   College is the equivalent of 4 new car payments a month expense for the next 86 months for me. About $100 a month of that comes back through Bush's tax credits for tuition. I can't sell my house in a dead ex-GM town. My last vehicle purchase was a '99 GMC pickup for $2500 that gets 26.5 mpg on the hwy and 24 mpg city. Squeezing 123% of EPA out of a recycled vehicle is my non-elitist approach. GM doesn't need to put a Volt out there to secure my future business.
#328 of 545 It will sell, if Lutz isn't the pitch man by morey000 Sep 20, 2008 (4:52 am)
Wow- that Steven Colbert interview with Bob Lutz made Lutz look like a dottering old fool. He was stammering, wasn't witty, and didn't seem to have the quick tag lines down about the car. He could have done so much better. GM should have sent one of their younger marketing guys.   What is this guy doing leading GM?
#329 of 545 Re: [coontie66] by 2doorpost Sep 20, 2008 (6:33 am)
Replying to: coontie66 (Sep 19, 2008 7:51 am) Thats what I dont understand- the gas miliage that I get on my 05 Chevy far outstrips a new one. What happened in three years time? And we wonder why theres a glut of new ones sitting unsold?   1984? The pinnacle year for GMs crappy phase- But name me a homerun that actually happened since?    OK, I'll give you the Aztec.    This could be that homerun. Get the technology set and run with it.   You can't shout it from the mountaintop until you've climbed it. Replies to this message: mikey38 (Sep 23, 2008 9:13 am)
#330 of 545 Will EV # 9 be the winner??? by gagrice Sep 20, 2008 (11:25 am)
The Volt is GMs 9th try at a practical EV type vehicle. The last was the S10 PU EV that was scrapped the same time as the much more publicized EV-1. All seemed to die of high cost. Will that be the fate of the VOLT?   http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/autos/0809/gallery.gm_electric_cars/8.html Replies to this message: reddroverr (Sep 20, 2008 2:53 pm)
#331 of 545 Re: Will EV # 9 be the winner??? [gagrice] by reddroverr Sep 20, 2008 (2:53 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 20, 2008 11:25 am) Mr Volt may die of high cost too. What it has going for it is that it is not range limited, and the battery does not have to store as much energy as in the previous EVs where it was the sole energy source, theoretically allowing for a lower price..eventually. we must add of course the fact the gas is much higher in price now and battery tech is improving as we speak. They really do need to get the price down. On the other hand, Tom Edison and Co tried a thousand times to perfect the light bulb.
#332 of 545 Who's laughing now? by coldcranker Sep 20, 2008 (5:32 pm)
Toyota came out with the Prius in '99, back when GM/Ford/Chrysler laughed at them for doing so. "Gas is cheap, use all you want, take showers in it if you want...etc." said the Detroit big 3. "Buy huge monster vehicles..." I remember reading the market evaluations.   You've got to admire Toyota's foresight. And Honda, too. Their Insight that they are bringing back will sell for $20,000, a bargain for a serious hybrid.   Now we are here debating whether or not the Volt will make it. The fact that GM has said the Volt will sell for about $40,000 means the market will buy 2 Honda Insights instead of only 1 Volt for the same money. Replies to this message: duke23 (Sep 20, 2008 6:34 pm) coldcranker (Sep 21, 2008 6:03 pm) dave8697 (Sep 22, 2008 11:57 am) and 1 more...
#333 of 545 Re: Wake up [larsb] by duke23 Sep 20, 2008 (6:20 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Sep 18, 2008 10:37 am) larsb wrote :  " Typical generalization. Incorrect again. They did not lease all 200 of them to celebs or to moguls." From news reports, I had 600 as the total for the project and your point is certainly well made, Jamie Lee Curtis and Christopher Guest would hardly qualify as celebrities. The primary criteria I saw, since you didn't mention it was access to a pumping station. I wish GM every success with the Volt. Though I love the idea of fuel cell, if it requires natural gas and platinum as a catalyst, the economics aren't really there. Green yah, energy efficient, nein. Good post btw G.

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