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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 18, 2008 4:27 pm) I was only responding to an individual that thought he could go to his local Honda dealer and lease one. It does not work that way. If so, you didn't understand the post. Honda is on the right track, GM is not, imho. We need to change the thinking. The sooner Americans are thinking about the race to electric propulsion in the same way we thought nationally about putting a man on the moon, the sooner we will be able to end the Fossil Fuel Age of dino-combustion. Sure, you have to produce hydrogen and manufacture fuel cells. I'd rather spend my money on that, rather than paying environmental protection money into carbon credit cartel schemes.ymmv
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Replying to: hoyahenry (Sep 17, 2008 7:11 pm) With the battery range of 40 miles..for you..it would effectively be an all electric fuel source car. Put some synthetic oil in the engine that you rarely use and be happy. Of course it still has to come out, and you still have to desire and be able to afford it. If half the cars sold in America used 80%+ less fuel...as the Volt should do...we would really have something. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 18, 2008 4:27 pm) Just a pilot test program that may or may not come to anything. |
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Replying to: hoyahenry (Sep 19, 2008 1:11 pm) If so, you didn't understand the post. Honda is on the right track, GM is not, imho. Your other posts indicate you are a big proponent of transitioning to an electric fleet. So am I. If the Volt is introduced in 2010 and fuel cell vehicles aren't viable until 2020 (optimistic) how many electric miles will have been logged by GM vehicles compared to Honda?
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Replying to: 2doorpost (Sep 19, 2008 6:14 am) Following Hollywood's lead is elitist to me. College is the equivalent of 4 new car payments a month expense for the next 86 months for me. About $100 a month of that comes back through Bush's tax credits for tuition. I can't sell my house in a dead ex-GM town. My last vehicle purchase was a '99 GMC pickup for $2500 that gets 26.5 mpg on the hwy and 24 mpg city. Squeezing 123% of EPA out of a recycled vehicle is my non-elitist approach. GM doesn't need to put a Volt out there to secure my future business. |
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Wow- that Steven Colbert interview with Bob Lutz made Lutz look like a dottering old fool. He was stammering, wasn't witty, and didn't seem to have the quick tag lines down about the car. He could have done so much better. GM should have sent one of their younger marketing guys. What is this guy doing leading GM? |
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Replying to: coontie66 (Sep 19, 2008 7:51 am) 1984? The pinnacle year for GMs crappy phase- But name me a homerun that actually happened since? OK, I'll give you the Aztec. This could be that homerun. Get the technology set and run with it. You can't shout it from the mountaintop until you've climbed it.
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The Volt is GMs 9th try at a practical EV type vehicle. The last was the S10 PU EV that was scrapped the same time as the much more publicized EV-1. All seemed to die of high cost. Will that be the fate of the VOLT? http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/autos/0809/gallery.gm_electric_cars/8.html
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 20, 2008 11:25 am) |
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Toyota came out with the Prius in '99, back when GM/Ford/Chrysler laughed at them for doing so. "Gas is cheap, use all you want, take showers in it if you want...etc." said the Detroit big 3. "Buy huge monster vehicles..." I remember reading the market evaluations. You've got to admire Toyota's foresight. And Honda, too. Their Insight that they are bringing back will sell for $20,000, a bargain for a serious hybrid. Now we are here debating whether or not the Volt will make it. The fact that GM has said the Volt will sell for about $40,000 means the market will buy 2 Honda Insights instead of only 1 Volt for the same money.
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