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545 messages, Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 12:57 PM
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I hope the Volt can deliver as advertised. That said, can I remind folks that fossil fuels (coal and oil) provide the energy to produce the electricity needed to recharge the Volt's battery in many areas? In other areas it is nuclear energy (which produces the most toxic substance on the planet as a by-product). So, don't get too enamored with the "green" technology. Just sayin.
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Replying to: dave8697 (Sep 18, 2008 8:52 am) The issue boils down to credibilty, along with a long record of misses and not hits. Who here bought a Chevy Vega? A diesel Olds? A V8-6-4 Caddy? Get the battery pack together - show me a car that I can drive to save real cash and I'll believe. Think credibility- not credit. |
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Replying to: keepinon (Sep 18, 2008 4:44 pm) Well, you might remind us, but let me add these caveats to your attempted buzz kill: The amount of fossil fuels which are being burned to produce electricity is going DOWN year by year as more renewable energy sources come online. Every year, that PHEV will be using cleaner and cleaner power. And the amount of pollution created by the electricity that an electric vehicle uses is a very small percentage of the pollution directly created by burning fossil fuel in an engine on the vehicle itself. Even using coal, emissions are lower with EVs and moving the pollution away from population centers is a good thing. Utilities have plenty of excess generating capacity at night which could charge millions of plug-in cars. While electricity is getting cleaner and more renewable every year, even the cleanest gasoline car becomes ever more polluting. An electric car, on the other hand, just gets cleaner over time as the grid gets cleaner. And nuclear energy is cleaner than you think. The by-product is being dealt with in responsible ways all over the world. France is the leader and they do not "glow in the dark" as of yet. The technology to store the nuclear waste is improving at a fast rate also, just as are most technologies in the area of energy production. So yes, EVs do reduce pollution, and will continue each year to be even cleaner. |
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Replying to: keepinon (Sep 18, 2008 4:44 pm) |
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Replying to: 2doorpost (Sep 19, 2008 6:14 am) The common thread is Consumer Report! Recommended by CR and I have not read their magazine since. I now have a 06 Chev Silverado diesel... what a wonderful vehicle. Also own a 03 Buick Park Ave.. another wonderful vehicle with great gas mileage. 30-32 on the road...--its too bad GM didn't tell anyone. My OLD 91 Chev 1500 Chev 4 X 4 gets 22 on the road and can haul its weight in mulch and other STUFF. Remember when you buy foreign EVEN if its built in TN or some other state the Profits still went back to Japan. Those profits were not spent on things in the USA but in Toyko or somewhere. I would like to see a Tundra pull up to my 5th wheel camper and pull it up Saluda Mtn on I 26 here in WNC. Even my OLD Chevy gets better gas mileage than my buddy's and we drive them all the way across NC to the Outer Banks each fall and fish ON THE BEACH ... No rust on my OLD Chevy but its showing up on the Toyota already. SUPERIOR TRUCK?????????? I don't think so.
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 18, 2008 4:27 pm) I was only responding to an individual that thought he could go to his local Honda dealer and lease one. It does not work that way. If so, you didn't understand the post. Honda is on the right track, GM is not, imho. We need to change the thinking. The sooner Americans are thinking about the race to electric propulsion in the same way we thought nationally about putting a man on the moon, the sooner we will be able to end the Fossil Fuel Age of dino-combustion. Sure, you have to produce hydrogen and manufacture fuel cells. I'd rather spend my money on that, rather than paying environmental protection money into carbon credit cartel schemes.ymmv
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Replying to: hoyahenry (Sep 17, 2008 7:11 pm) With the battery range of 40 miles..for you..it would effectively be an all electric fuel source car. Put some synthetic oil in the engine that you rarely use and be happy. Of course it still has to come out, and you still have to desire and be able to afford it. If half the cars sold in America used 80%+ less fuel...as the Volt should do...we would really have something. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 18, 2008 4:27 pm) Just a pilot test program that may or may not come to anything. |
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Replying to: hoyahenry (Sep 19, 2008 1:11 pm) If so, you didn't understand the post. Honda is on the right track, GM is not, imho. Your other posts indicate you are a big proponent of transitioning to an electric fleet. So am I. If the Volt is introduced in 2010 and fuel cell vehicles aren't viable until 2020 (optimistic) how many electric miles will have been logged by GM vehicles compared to Honda?
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Replying to: 2doorpost (Sep 19, 2008 6:14 am) Following Hollywood's lead is elitist to me. College is the equivalent of 4 new car payments a month expense for the next 86 months for me. About $100 a month of that comes back through Bush's tax credits for tuition. I can't sell my house in a dead ex-GM town. My last vehicle purchase was a '99 GMC pickup for $2500 that gets 26.5 mpg on the hwy and 24 mpg city. Squeezing 123% of EPA out of a recycled vehicle is my non-elitist approach. GM doesn't need to put a Volt out there to secure my future business. |
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