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Will the Chevy Volt Succeed?

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Re: 230 MPG ???? [gagrice] by larsb
Aug 17, 2009 (5:35 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 16, 2009 8:58 pm)

Gary - VERY few people in this country are paying 34 cents per kwh.
 
Like I said - 10 cents is the US average. 6 cents is the average off-peak charge.
 
MOST Americans will be able to drive a Volt for less than any other car on the road.
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Re: 230 MPG ???? [larsb] by stephen987
Aug 17, 2009 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Aug 17, 2009 5:35 am)

Yes, but the people most interested in driving a Volt are the ones living on either the east or west coast--where traffic is most dense, the politics tend to favor EVs and hybrids, and the electric rates are highest.
 
Those of us in the heartland tend to prefer plain ol' gas or diesel powertrains, as they do not require band-aids to travel several hundred miles comfortably and efficiently. Give me a TDI, or for that matter a midsize sedan with a direct-injection gas four-cylinder, and I'll outlast and outrun your Volt.
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Re: 230 MPG ???? [stephen987] by gagrice
Aug 17, 2009 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Aug 17, 2009 6:21 am)

larsb just does not see the big picture. A Volt where he lives would also suffer from AC dragging down his mileage. As soon as Congress puts a big cap on Coal generation that 10 cent electricity will be history. Someone has to pay for it. No one has posted which states have smart meters that can lower the rates at night. We are getting smart meters just no discount for overnight usage. GM cannot survive selling 2 Volts in the USA.
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Re: 230 MPG ???? [gagrice] by larsb
Aug 17, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 17, 2009 7:47 am)

Gary says, "larsb just does not see the big picture"
 
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OK, back to business. I DO see the big picture - that picture is that our dependence on gasoline is on the way down. It cannot be stopped. It should not be stopped. The EREV Volt is another step, just as were the gasoline-electric hybrids before it.
 
Is the Volt the perfect car for EVERYONE? No, and that car is impossible to build. If not, we would all be driving the perfect car already.
 
You can only build a car to meet a certain need for a certain group.
 
I'm not worried about electricity rates going up - I just insulated myself from that problem by leasing a solar panel system.
 
For 5 months out of the year, I'm going to be feeding the grid from my roof.
 
Gary says, "No one has posted which states have smart meters that can lower the rates at night. "
 
It's not "state by state" it's "utility company by utility company." Some companies have it, others do not. I would doubt there is a valid list showing them all.
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Re: 230 MPG ???? [gagrice] by michael2003
Aug 20, 2009 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 14, 2009 5:41 am)

Seems like with the rates you're paying you're an excellent candidate for going solar and getting an electric car to charge up during the day.
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Re: 230 MPG ???? [larsb] by eaton53
Aug 21, 2009 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Aug 17, 2009 8:48 am)

"It's not "state by state" it's "utility company by utility company." Some companies have it, others do not. I would doubt there is a valid list showing them all."
 
Not only that, it seems to be "by utility company by state".
And in my state, it's not even all year.
But when the off peak is in effect it's dirt, dirt cheap.
 
I look at the first Volts like TV's. The first ones were really expensive. People with money bought them because they were cool and made a statement. Regular people went to bars or looked through store windows, waiting for them to become affordable.
 
Like every other electrical gizmo they started getting cheaper. Eventually TV killed the radio star and so electric cars will also take over. It's just a matter of time... this is the dawn of a revolution.
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Re: 230 MPG ???? [gagrice] by igh
Oct 05, 2009 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 16, 2009 8:58 pm)

> How many people work at night and would be able to use solar to charge during > the day?
 
I do not know why people are still ignorant about grid-tied solar. You do not
need to charge at night using solar. You generate during the day, feed that
power to the utility company to accumulate credits and then draw that credit
at night, At 8kwh and 300 days/per year if your solar panels are designed to
generate 2400KwH over and above your residential needs, you charge the Volt
for free. With residential time of use metering where the utility company pays
you more during peak day hours between 12-6 you may only need to generate
about 2000KWH extra throughout the year. In my area (silicon valley) that
translates to 1.3KW of solar capacity - current cost of that after rebates is 5K.
 
You can do the math - payback is 5 years, Panels are guaranteed for 25-30 yrs.
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Volt climbs Pike's Peak, performs "better than expected" by larsb
Oct 08, 2009 (12:36 pm)
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For those worrying about the "climbing" capabilities of the Volt, here's some new data to digest:
 
Chevy Volt heads to Pikes Peak to practice mountain climbing
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Re: Volt climbs Pike's Peak, performs "better than expected" [larsb] by snakeweasel
Oct 08, 2009 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 08, 2009 12:36 pm)

I wouldn't worry to much about performance going up Pikes Peak or other mountain roads. Usually they are winding two lane roads that you really don't want to be going to fast on.
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Bad Karma? by reddroverr
Oct 28, 2009 (1:11 pm)
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They say this car will get only 67mpg. I know with my driving patterns it would be much higher since it is reported to get a 50 mile all electric range.. At any rate....
 
The Karma and Volt use a similar powertrain configuration known as a series hybrid, but cars that use it are becoming more commonly known as extended range electric vehicles.
 
Essentially, after running in pure electric mode for a short distance - 50 miles in the case of the Karma, 40 miles in the Volt - and depleting the vehicle's battery, a small internal combustion engine kicks in to generate electricity to drive the car. Unlike a more conventional hybrid like the Ford Fusion, there is no mechanical transmission connecting the engine to the wheels.
 
Coincidentally, the Karma uses a 2.4 liter 4-cylinder engine sourced from General Motors for this purpose.

 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,547987,00.html
 
And what's more, Fisker is planning to build a more direct competitor to the Volt. A moderately priced sedan. Get this, they are buying an indled GM plant for production..

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