Article Comments - First Look: 2008 Lexus IS-F

42 messages, Last post on Oct 31, 2007 at 3:53 PM

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First Look: 2008 Lexus IS-F - Though Lexus is still coy with us about the specifications of the IS-F's V8 as the date of the car's introduction approaches, the engine is almost certainly based on the LS 600h L's 5.0-liter V8. (more)

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#37 of 42 Re: Article comments. [louiswei] by crimsono2 Oct 31, 2007 (7:48 am)
Replying to: louiswei (Oct 31, 2007 7:20 am) You make some valid points. But I never said Lexus was trying to become BMW either. I said they were gunning for, as in trying to compete/beat BMW. So, they looked at BMW's offerings as a benchmark and designed the cars against them. This is well known and demonstrated as, I too have been to the Taste of Lexus event and seen Lexus pit a 335i against the 350 on a short track (IS wins, no surprise there). However, you can't compete in a segment without having similar/comparable characteristic traits. They learned this from the first IS300 they released and adapted accordingly. I guess only time will tell regarding the exhaust. I have a feeling more people will complain about the possible problems with that than rear-collision damage. Hold the fort!! I now know what'll pull the IS-F ahead of the rest of the competition. Park Assist!!! http://www.lexus.com/isf/isf/specs.html Replies to this message: louiswei (Oct 31, 2007 8:15 am) sjaieve (Oct 31, 2007 9:44 am) crimsono2 (Oct 31, 2007 10:56 am) louiswei (Oct 31, 2007 11:43 am)
#38 of 42 Re: Article comments. [crimsono2] by louiswei Oct 31, 2007 (8:15 am)
Replying to: crimsono2 (Oct 31, 2007 7:48 am) They learned this from the first IS300 they released and adapted accordingly. Actually, IS300 was a better handler than the ISX50 and in general consensus, it is a better 3-series competitor. However, the IS300 sold horribly so Lexus decided they can't beat BMW by being BMW thus comes the new IS.
#39 of 42 Re: Article comments. [crimsono2] by sjaieve Oct 31, 2007 (9:44 am)
Replying to: crimsono2 (Oct 31, 2007 7:48 am) I too have been to the Taste of Lexus event and seen Lexus pit a 335i against the 350 on a short track (IS wins, no surprise there). I know you are involved in a more intelligent discussion with someone else on this forum but your comment here was of interest to me. Are you saying in real life, the IS is faster than the 335i. I am not trying to start an argument, just interested in what you noticed at the Taste of Lex even Replies to this message: crimsono2 (Oct 31, 2007 10:56 am) louiswei (Oct 31, 2007 11:43 am)
#40 of 42 Re: Article comments. [sjaieve] by crimsono2 Oct 31, 2007 (10:56 am)
Replying to: sjaieve (Oct 31, 2007 9:44 am) It was a Lexus sponsored event (at the very intro of the IS) where they pit themselves against a BMW 335i...do you honestly think there would be a chance that the BMW would win in a Lexus sponsored test drive event? I didn't...hence the written sarcasm on which won. I didn't mean to imply anything else other than the obvious publicity stunt. Replies to this message: louiswei (Oct 31, 2007 11:43 am)
#41 of 42 Re: Article comments. [crimsono2] by louiswei Oct 31, 2007 (11:43 am)
Replying to: crimsono2 (Oct 31, 2007 10:56 am) If it was at the very intro of the IS then that Bimmer should be 330i instead of 335i. The 335i came out at least 1 year later after the 2nd gen IS debut. To pit a 330i against an IS350 I have no reason to assume that Lexus has staged the IS350 to win given that the HP difference is just too big. If it's the 335i then that's a totally different story. Oh yeah and it wasn't a publicity stunt as well.
#42 of 42 last post on non-IS-F by crimsono2 Oct 31, 2007 (3:53 pm)
You're right, at that time it was the 330i. However, even if you think there was no chance in hell a 330i could match up...there are many edmunds BMW330i/IS350 owners that put it to the test and came up with mixed results (see the IS thread "2006 BMW 3-series vs. 2006 Lexus IS"). How's that saying go? Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear. Either way, I've derailed this non-IS-F related thread long enough. Best of luck to the IS-F release. I have no doubt to its success, but it is not impervious to criticism.