Article Comments - First Look: 2008 Lexus IS-F

42 messages, Last post on Oct 31, 2007 at 3:53 PM

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First Look: 2008 Lexus IS-F - Though Lexus is still coy with us about the specifications of the IS-F's V8 as the date of the car's introduction approaches, the engine is almost certainly based on the LS 600h L's 5.0-liter V8. (more)

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#22 of 42 Re: IS-F [sjaieve] by louiswei Oct 26, 2007 (9:52 am)
Replying to: sjaieve (Oct 26, 2007 9:47 am) Do you have the skip pad and slalom stats for both IS-F and M3 from C&D as well? The reason I ask is because Bimmer fans will alsways come back with the "straight line performance is not important" and "The Bimmer will run circles around that Lexus" argument. Guess what, if IS-F is equally impressive in those area as well we'll start hearing something like "it's not refine enough" and "it looks like a riced out IS350". Replies to this message: sjaieve (Oct 26, 2007 10:11 am) pat (Oct 26, 2007 11:05 am)
#23 of 42 Re: IS-F [louiswei] by sjaieve Oct 26, 2007 (10:11 am)
Replying to: louiswei (Oct 26, 2007 9:52 am) LETS WAIT AND SEE, I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS, BEAR IN MIND THIS IS LEXUS FIRST ATTEMPT Replies to this message: pat (Oct 26, 2007 11:05 am)
#24 of 42 Re: IS-F [sjaieve] by pat HOST Oct 26, 2007 (11:05 am)
Replying to: sjaieve (Oct 26, 2007 10:11 am) Please don't type in all caps. It looks like you are shouting at us and it makes your messages difficult to read.
#25 of 42 my apologies by sjaieve Oct 26, 2007 (12:12 pm)
will not happen again, meant nothing by it, just had the caps lock button on for other purposes as well. thx Replies to this message: pat (Oct 29, 2007 4:06 pm)
#26 of 42 Re: my apologies [sjaieve] by pat HOST Oct 29, 2007 (4:06 pm)
Replying to: sjaieve (Oct 26, 2007 12:12 pm) No problem, thanks.
#27 of 42 Article comments. by crimsono2 Oct 29, 2007 (4:06 pm)
Honestly, I'm a little disappointed in the IS-F. Everything it aims to be, seems well executed. However, there are a few things that stand out in my mind: - interior/exterior color combination is off for the intro model (too boy-racer as many have commented) - Rear quad-stacked exhaust is fake and for looks only (not attached to the muffler) - Why not be a 2-door? For a company that usually is a stickler for detail and has a reason for everything, it's hard to find a compelling reason for some of these design cues. Replies to this message: louiswei (Oct 30, 2007 6:30 am) crimsono2 (Oct 30, 2007 9:33 pm) louiswei (Oct 31, 2007 7:20 am) and 5 more...
#28 of 42 rs4, is-f comparison by sjaieve Oct 29, 2007 (5:53 pm)
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123158 has anyone read this. help me understand a couple of things -they state in the article that the RS4 weighs more and has less torque than the IS F, yet this car is faster than the IS-F, is this physically possible since both cars have similar HP? -Lexus is historically known to be conservative with the 0-60 numbers, on their website, Lexus claims the IS-F does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. The article states they clocked 4.7/4.8 seconds. Is this consistent with what we have known about the auto maker. -http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=115689/pageNumber=1 in the second article, edmunds tested the rs4, at te time, the rs4's 0-60 was 4.6 seconds, the quartile was north of 13 seconds. you will notice that the rs4, now that the is-f is around, is now faster, i.e. 4.2 seconds and around 12 seconds for the quarter mile. do cars suddenly improve in perfomance when a new competitor arrives. the authour was frank from the begining, in that tthey liked the rs4, but can they give us information that makes sense, compare the is-f to the m3, thats more informative than ths rs4 comparison Replies to this message: gwinbear (Oct 29, 2007 9:53 pm) sjaieve (Oct 30, 2007 11:59 am) rayainsw (Oct 30, 2007 4:25 am) louiswei (Oct 30, 2007 6:33 am) sjaieve (Oct 30, 2007 11:44 am)
#29 of 42 Re: rs4, is-f comparison [sjaieve] by gwinbear Oct 29, 2007 (9:53 pm)
Replying to: sjaieve (Oct 29, 2007 5:53 pm) they state in the article that the RS4 weighs more and has less torque than the IS F, yet this car is faster than the IS-F, is this physically possible since both cars have similar HP? Certainly. It could be mechanical advantage (less power loss from engine to wheels,) different gearing ratio spread, et al. The dyno charts can also provide data on how both apply the power to the ground. It may have less MAXIMUM torque, but what if it gets this torque across the entire RPM range? (see also edmunds' article on G35 vs BMW 335i) Frankly, all these 4 point something numbers are simply too much for the streets. Replies to this message: sjaieve (Oct 30, 2007 11:59 am)
#30 of 42 RS4 quicker than the IS-F – and quicker now? [sjaieve] by rayainsw Oct 30, 2007 (4:25 am)
Replying to: sjaieve (Oct 29, 2007 5:53 pm) I see a couple of potential mitigating factors here - setting aside the issue of gearing ( mentioned above ), different track day conditions, drivers ? , etc. 1 – The RS4 has AWD, and can typically launch harder than an otherwise equivalent RWD. And launch has an effect of ET. 2 – In the initial test of the RS4, Edmunds said: “Although Audi claims production cars won't have it, our test car consistently demonstrated that it had drivetrain protection programmed into its engine calibration. Launching the RS 4 at more than 4,000 rpm was hampered by what felt like the electronic throttle being closed.” If that is now ‘fixed’, I’d expect better acceleration numbers – possibly at the expense of reduced drivetrain life . . . - Ray Disappointed in several aspects of the IS-F.
#31 of 42 Re: Article comments. [crimsono2] by louiswei Oct 30, 2007 (6:30 am)
Replying to: crimsono2 (Oct 29, 2007 4:06 pm) First of all, Lexus not offering the IS-F in 2-door is NOT a "design cue" mishap. The IS-F is the factory tuned version of the regular IS and so far there is no coupe in the IS lineup. Same thing goes for the C63 and RS4, none of them are offered as a 2-door either. I agree that the white/black high contrast interior is a little bit "flashy" but if you don't like it there is always the mature all black version. Exterior color includes black, pearl white, silver. Are those boy-racer in your standard? AS for the "fake" quad-staked exhaust I agree that it looks a bit cheesy however I can understand the reason behind it. There are going to be at least 2 issue if the muffler is attached to the exhaust and they are: 1. overheating the bumper and 2. if rear ended by another car, there will be a lot more things to be replaced. Replies to this message: crimsono2 (Oct 30, 2007 9:33 pm) louiswei (Oct 31, 2007 7:20 am) crimsono2 (Oct 31, 2007 7:48 am) and 4 more...