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#5521 of 5530 Re: timing belt [danny08]
by berri
Sep 07, 2009 (6:40 pm)
Honda seems to be having a lot of flukes lately like trannies, AC compressors, etc. I wonder if they've taken on too many D3 vendors?
#5522 of 5530 Re: timing belt [berri]
by stephen987
Sep 08, 2009 (6:16 am)
I wonder if they've taken on too many D3 vendors?
Meow. That's catty.
The current Accord is a very nice car. So is the current Camry. Unfortunately for Honda and Toyota, they are up against quite a few other very nice cars. Very nice is no longer good enough to guarantee continued domination of the market.
For several years running, the Accord's reliability has been matched or exceeded by the Ford Fusion and Hyundai Sonata, according to CR. Have these cars (built in Mexico and Alabama, respectively) been taking on too many Japanese vendors?
The truth of the matter is that reliability is a non-issue for most midsize cars now. Aside from the real bottom of the barrel (Chrysler), the current crop of Accord-class cars is an extraordinary group. This makes it harder for the Accord and Camry to differentiate themselves from competitors (Ford, Hyundai, GM) that wouldn't have been taken seriously five years ago.
Sep 08, 2009 (7:45 am)
What is D3? Is it third world? I know both Honda and Toyota have global suppliers that saves them tons of money and quality issues. In that area, they have a good system going.
Although we sold our 2008 Accord EX due to seat comfort issue, the car was well built. What Fusion, Sonata, and Malibu can NOT match is resale value of Accord or Camry. We sold the Accord $2K less than what I paid for 9K miles and 15 months later.
I sold my 1994 Accord (bought new) two year, 30K miles later $1000 less than what I bought it for.
Everyone is catching up with the reliability part, they still have a long way to go for the resale value part.
If you want to change cars every 2-3 years, Accords and Camrys are the best choices. If you keep the car 10-12 years, Fusion, Sonata, Malibu should be fine.
Joe
#5524 of 5530 Re: D3 Vendor?? [jodar96]
by stephen987
Sep 08, 2009 (8:06 am)
D3=Detroit 3 (GM, Ford, Chrysler)
#5525 of 5530 Re: timing belt [stephen987]
by berri
Sep 08, 2009 (9:20 am)
Meow. That's catty.
As Catbert says "PURRR -"
Lets give the new competitors a bit more time and see what they look like after 5 years and 60K. I hope you're right, but several times before I've heard this D3 is much better now, bought their products and been burned down the road. Its interesting how the new Mazda based Fusion looks good, while the Volvo based Taurus/500 has been mediocre. Shows there is no correlation between vehicle price and quality/reliability. The Opel based new GM offerings are a bit tight, but show promise. I think Hyundai needs a bit more work on suspension.
As for differentiating, I was waiting for a rental car awhile back at PHX and the Hertz person told me they actually got a few Accord's. Despite everyone dissing them as fugly, she said they never sit around long before someone rents them. Actually, you don't seem to get Fusions or Malibu's much as rentals any more. The rental hangar queens seem to be Hyundai/Kia and Nissan these days.
Sep 12, 2009 (11:45 am)
As for differentiating, I was waiting for a rental car awhile back at PHX and the Hertz person told me they actually got a few Accord's. Despite everyone dissing them as fugly, she said they never sit around long before someone rents them. Actually, you don't seem to get Fusions or Malibu's much as rentals any more. The rental hangar queens seem to be Hyundai/Kia and Nissan these days.
It might be a regional thing...most of the Ford rental cars have SYNC, which gives you the legally required hands-free interface for phone in most places. As a bonus, it has a USB iPod connection, something Honda still can't seem to get right (although at least they have a connection now, my '07 doesn't and no decent provision to add one).
#5529 of 5530 2008 Honda Accourd Coupe
by peqchamps
Mar 31, 2011 (9:51 am)
Hey all,
I am probably going to by a 2008 Honda Accord Coupe that I have been leasing for 3 years (lease is up in July). I put $2 grand down and have been paying about $330 a month. Most sites I search say the value should be about $16 grand and that's what the dealership is offering me as well. Anyone have any differing opinions?
Thanks for the help.
#5530 of 5530 Re: 2008 Honda Accourd Coupe [peqchamps]
by blueiedgod
Mar 31, 2011 (10:21 am)
Hey all,
I am probably going to by a 2008 Honda Accord Coupe that I have been leasing for 3 years (lease is up in July). I put $2 grand down and have been paying about $330 a month. Most sites I search say the value should be about $16 grand and that's what the dealership is offering me as well. Anyone have any differing opinions?
Thanks for the help.
$330/month x 36 months = $11,880 +$2000 down = $13,880 that you have paid so far.
What is the residual value written into the lease? Compare that with what you are interested in paying.
And do the math. $13,880 + $16,000 = $29,880. It better be some loaded Accord at that price.