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Sedans Hyundai Sonata Hyundai Sonata vs Honda Accord 
664 messages, Last post on Oct 12, 2007 at 3:33 PM
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Replying to: lightfootfl (Oct 12, 2007 8:32 am) Honda and Toyota haven't had to sell their cars on grounds likes of Isuzu, Kia, Hyundai, Suzuki etc have. But, they "add" warranty when it really counts... in the used car market. That not only helps a new car buyer, and helps improve the value of old as well. Think about it.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Oct 12, 2007 9:30 am) That is your opinion. Buy what you are happy with. That's all that really matters. |
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Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 12, 2007 9:54 am) They were FORCED into that warranty but some people will buy strictly because of that.
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Replying to: backy (Oct 12, 2007 8:19 am) 1976: 19K 1977: 76K 1978: 121K 1979: 158K 1980: 186K It passed the 200K mark in 1983, 300K mark in 1986. Bonus: The story is fairly similar for Civic (someone earlier dubbed it an "unloved" car) 1973: 33K 1974: 43K 1975: 102K 1976: 132K 1977: 148K Civic crossed the 200K unit sales mark in 1985, and the 300K unit sales mark in 1997. What makes it all more impressive is that Honda accomplished these numbers by attracting individual buyers like you and me, instead of sending vehicles to fleet. Honda is still the stingiest of major automakers in terms of fleet sales (about 2%). So, the company managed to make inroads into people's heart by being something different and in many ways, unique. |
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Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 12, 2007 10:04 am) Huyndai is now romancing the rental car companies like Toyota did. So now, the dismal resale values will become even worse as the rental fleets are dumped en masse at the auctions when they are a year or so old! These can be great buys! Not bad cars that have deperciated horribly in their first year! If I were inclined to buy a Korean car, I would definatly find one of these to buy. |
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Replying to: backy (Oct 12, 2007 8:25 am) ACE (Advanced Compatibility Engineering) is about proper dispersion of forces against larger (higher) and heavier vehicles, that goes beyond simply running into a barrier for IIHS/NHTSA standardized tests. In case of SUVs (for example, in RDX and MDX), ACE incorporates a design to catch/engage the bumper of a smaller/lower vehicles so the chance to be run over them is minimized. So the idea isn't to show better numbers for a Honda or Acura, but to help lesser vehicles on the road survive. Which standardized test measures that? There are no standardized tests that account for these, yet it is a part of Honda's design. And as always, Honda did a poor job in marketing its design. To a normal person, ACE simply sounds like any other approach to doing better in crash tests.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Oct 12, 2007 9:30 am) Nuff said.
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I think the Sonata is nicely styled. It's sleek and functional, and if--as many believe--the 06 Sonata was copying a bit the 03 Accord, then I think Hyundai picked a good model. They were targeting one of the two the class-leading cars for this segment (the other being the Camry, of course). I like the style of the 08 Accord even better, but the part I like best is the side view--which even most admirers have to admit pays homage to the BMW 5-series. There's nothing wrong with copying great cars, at least imho. And in terms of packaging, the Sonata is very strong. It has almost as much passenger room inside as the 08 Accord (I think the Accord has a bit more room in some areas, like headroom, but not much), but the Sonata's trunk is substantially bigger (2 cubic feet, I think), all with a length that is about 5 inches shorter than the 08 Accord. The engine of the Sonata is good, but the engine of the 08 Accord a little better. The 4 cylinder Sonata has 162 hp, while the 4 cylinder Accord has 177 hp in the LX/LXP version, and 190 hp in the EX/EXL version. And the LX Accord, even though it is a bigger car, actually weighs slightly less than the GLS Sonata (I believe there's more high-strength/high grade steel in the Accord, in fact the Accord is getting closer to having as much high-strength steel as a Mercedes). In both versions, the 08 Accord gets 1 more mpg in the city with the manual transmission than the Sonata. So, slightly higher mpg, more power, and a little more room inside with the Accord. It's marginal, but I'd say the Accord has better engineering overall. But it does cost more than the Sonata, no doubt about it. You pay a lot for those small differences, but overall I think Honda's engineering is just slightly superior.
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Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 12, 2007 10:04 am) I should know as I traded my V8 Caprice for a Civic CVCC back in late 1970's...Fenders, hood, trunk, doors of Civic rusted out within 6 yrs up north despite rustproofing. Great memories!
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Replying to: macakava (Oct 12, 2007 11:16 am) Besides, that also helps make the point I did earlier... Honda wasn't like everybody else, copying and competing. It was the unique approach, and winning heart by design and engineering. Do you disagree? If you do, you would actually contradict yourself because if Honda weren't unique, why did people WANT a brand new entry that was Honda? |
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