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Sedans Hyundai Sonata Hyundai Sonata vs Honda Accord 
664 messages, Last post on Oct 12, 2007 at 3:33 PM
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Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 12, 2007 5:20 am) I saw an Accord EX with dealer-applied side mouldings last night and I thought they looked very good--much better than I thought they would. But they cost $255. The same car had several other dealer-installed options, including fog lamps for about $410, a rear spoiler (can't remember how much but it was pricey), some interior trim that included some very tasteful looking rosewood-color, matte-finish wood grain trim on the dash (but I'm not sure what else), and a few other add-ons. $1800 worth. The side mouldings, fog lamps, rear spoiler, and wood trim (albeit not as nice) are all standard on the Sonata SE that starts under $20k. I prefer side mouldings on cars because I find people are not very courteous in parking lots, and parking spaces seem to be getting smaller all the time. I don't know how many dings the side mouldings on my cars have saved over the years. So I don't like the recent trend (not just Accord but Camry and some newer Hyundai models) to take off the side mouldings--then charge $200-300 to put them back on. 
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I didn't phrase that right about the plant. I should have said something like it's taking a few days off here and there to reduce inventory. Overall, however, I don't think the Sonata sells more than about 100,000 a year in the US. And total Hyundai sales are about 400,000. Honda has been selling well over a million vehicles a year in the US for a while. Now big isn't always better, but there's a certain convenience in having parts and service available almost everywhere. Just in case, of course. In the 5+ years I've owned my 02 Accord it's needed nothing but regular maintenance. Of course Honda started out small too. I expect Hyundai will continue to grow in the US. After all, they make good cars at a great price. Having XM standard on the Sonata is great. That's something I really wanted in a car, and to get it on the Honda you have to go all the way to the EXL, which is almost $10,000 more than the base Sonata with XM.
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Replying to: backy (Oct 12, 2007 6:38 am) ACE isn't designed for IIHS or NHTSA tests. This would be a prime example that at least a few automakers out there aren't tailoring their cars to meet standardized tests (another would be pedestrian safety, which isn't even tested in the USA, but Honda is incorporating those design elements in its vehicles).
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Replying to: benjaminh (Oct 12, 2007 6:51 am) Honda has over 10 years' head start on Hyundai in the U.S. It's understandable they sell more cars here than Hyundai does. There are about as many Hyundai dealers in my area as Honda dealers, but I know that is not the case all over the U.S. |
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Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 12, 2007 6:55 am) An Advanced Compatibility Engineering (ACE) body structure disperses frontal crash energy over a wide area, helping keep it away from passengers. Since one of the IIHS tests is a frontal crash (also there's a frontal NHTSA test), I would think that the ACE body structure would help the Accord get excellent marks in that test. I am really not sure what you mean or are implying by saying that some automakers are tailoring their cars to meet standardized tests. Do you mean that they are doing something to the cars such that they receive good marks on crash tests, but those tweaks don't help protect passengers in real-world crashes? Do you have evidence that Hyundai is doing that with the Sonata? (You've already implied Honda isn't doing it with the Accord.) If so, I'd say they aren't doing a very good job of it, given that the Sonata is rated only "Acceptable" on the IIHS side crash test. If not, then why bring it up (multiple times) in this discussion?
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Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 12, 2007 5:20 am) Of course there is no warranty price added into the price of the Hondas.  Their prices are just high because they want more money. As for me, I would rather have a warranty and never use it than not have one hoping that I would never need it. van
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Replying to: lightfootfl (Oct 12, 2007 8:32 am) Total cost of ownership is the important thing. People who are wound up on the length of a warranty are people who will buy a Hyundai. They just don't realize that they just roll the expected costs of warranty repairs into the price of the cars. They have to. But, hey, if that makes you feel better... |
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the Long-Haul Warranty may be rolled in to the cost of your new Hyundai Sonata but as backy points out you're still paying $4,000 less than for the Honda Accord competitor. Where's the problem there? Yes, your Sonata will depreciate faster than the Accord will but that has also been explained in this forum, too, to be acceptable because one pays less up front for their Sonata than for their Accord. Total value quotient that includes all of the features needs to be considered and in my view the Sonata offers a lot more value. Mechanically Hyundai has been sound as a pound for years...they have progressed very, very fast. I include little brother Kia in with Hyundai on vastly improved quality gains the past 7 years. I fail to see the advantage of getting an Accord over a Sonata. And, once again, though looks don't matter much to people all the time, the Sonata's body design wins over any Accord built from any model year by Honda. Just does. Plain fact. And no, Hyundai isn't copying the Accord. There are so many design differences in the two cars that it's really a silly argument. Nuff said. Sonata wins by a longshot. Without mentioning a Kia Optima in this thread. Even once. |
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