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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [macakava] by kdshapiro
Oct 11, 2007 (11:39 am)

Replying to: macakava (Oct 11, 2007 9:06 am)

"An open mind to changes and progress with the times"
 
I do not have an open mind when it comes to buying cars and stocks. If however, you will give me the car and stocks I will keep an open mind. As a consumer I don't require an "open" mind to get what I believe is the best value for my dollar.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [kdshapiro] by macakava
Oct 11, 2007 (5:29 pm)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Oct 11, 2007 11:39 am)

"If however, you will give me the car and stocks I will keep an open mind."
 
Never been a sugar daddy in my life and don't intend to be one.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [robertsmx] by macakava
Oct 11, 2007 (5:33 pm)

Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 11, 2007 9:23 am)

OK. So the Sonata with 105 cu ft passenger volume and 16 cu ft trunk for a total of 121 cu ft qualifies as one...but I would prefer more passenger volume than trunk, unless one intends to transport dead bodies in the trunk, mafia style.
 
As always, "many ways to skin a cat"
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Pros and Cons by backy
Oct 11, 2007 (7:32 pm)
Now that I've driven the new Accord (backy, "The Forums Test Drive Team" #195, 11 Oct 2007 8:02 pm), I can compare the pros and cons of the current Accord and Sonata.
 
Accord - Likes:
* Powerful yet economical engines
* 5-speed automatic on the I4
* Clear gauges
* Quality feel to controls
* Interior room
* Standard safety features
* Comfortable driving position, even with manual seat
* Good blend of ride and handling
 
Accord - Dislikes:
* Exterior size
* Front-end styling
* Feature content for the price
* Tire noise when cruising on freeway
* Small trunk
* No 60/40 rear seat
* Cheap looking plastic wheel covers (LX)
* Lack of lumbar support (LX)
* Plain interior (LX and LX-P)
* No side mouldings
* Short warranty
 
Sonata - Likes:
* Clear gauges
* Quality feel to controls
* Interior room
* Standard safety features
* Comfortable driving position (with power seat)
* Smooth, quiet ride
* Manumatic transmission
* Large trunk with access via 60/40 rear seat
* Exterior styling, including decent-looking wheel covers on GLS
* Feature content for the price
* Side mouldings
* Long warranty, with 5 years of roadside assistance
 
Sonata - Dislikes:
* No 5-speed automatic on I4
* Dated dash design compared to some competitors and newer Hyundai models
* No telescopic wheel on GLS
* Non-folding side mirrors
* Driving position not comfortable with manual seat
 
So, the question remains: given the choice between a Sonata and Accord of equal price, but much more content on the Sonata, or a Sonata equipped like an Accord plus $4000+ in cash--which would I take? Unless something changes (e.g. the price gap narrows considerably or the Accord aces the IIHS crash tests), the answer is still "Sonata".
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Re: Pros and Cons [backy] by robertsmx
Oct 11, 2007 (7:45 pm)

Replying to: backy (Oct 11, 2007 7:32 pm)

I'm surprised.
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Re: Pros and Cons [backy] by micro99
Oct 11, 2007 (8:22 pm)

Replying to: backy (Oct 11, 2007 7:32 pm)

Nice review Backy . I see that the sniping has already started from those simply unwilling to be forthcoming and honest about some of the features of the 2008 Honda. For some additional insights, you might want to wander over to the other board (Temple of Vtec) where some long-time Honda owners are expressing disappointment comparing the 2008 accord to prior-generation models.The negative comments cover the full spectrum -from exterior styling to interior quality and ergonomics, and extend to performance and technological innovation. Quite interesting indeed.
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Re: Pros and Cons [robertsmx] by backy
Oct 11, 2007 (8:25 pm)

Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 11, 2007 7:45 pm)

What surprised you? That the Accord didn't provide a life-altering experience when I drove it? It's a family sedan. A very nice family sedan, but not a "worth-several-thousand-bucks-more-than-a-Sonata" family sedan. For me, anyway. I know you might just have a different opinion on that.
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Re: Quantum Leap [isellhondas] by kingsalmon
Oct 12, 2007 (3:48 am)

Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 09, 2007 8:55 am)

You don't even know the names of your competitors? How is that helping your point? If I were shopping at a Honda dealer and the person working there didn't know what the competition was selling, I'd either
 
A) leave that dealership for another just for the ignorance or
B) leave that dealership just for the arrogance of that statement. "where do they come up with these names?" Where do they come up with Camry or Corolla or Tercel for that matter?
 
If you're a sleeping dealer, wake up and smell what your competition is cooking. Better for your business as well.
 
As for all of you Hondites who are accusing Backy of his biases, look at the research he did. And try to understand his reasoning instead of attacking him and his biases. Having a bias is irrelevant. If it doesn't make sense, point out where it doesn't make sense.
 
If you want to shoot down the facts go right ahead come up with your own. I don't see any of you come up with numbers or figures. Just opinions laced with wonderful generalities.
 
You get less resale value, but you pay way less to begin with.
 
Also put into factor, the risk of totaling your car. Hopefully this wouldn't happen to you all, but reality is that it does happen and it's bound to happen to a percentage of Americans who buy cars. (My brother in law is paying for a Civic he totalled a couple months ago)
 
If you buy a cheaper car, you'd have to pay less for a car that you totaled. It's a drag whether it's a Hyundai or a Honda but one person ends up having to pay a lot more for the same fact. A car they can't drive. My brother in Law would have saved 3-4 dollars if he listened to me and bought an Elantra.
 
I like what Hyundai says in one of their advertisements.
 
"Think about it. Shouldn't you drive a car that inflates your intelligence, not your ego?" one spot asks. Another: "Are car companies committed to quality? Or to the phrase, `committed to quality?'"
 
I've gone to dealers who say that Honda or Toyota doesn't need to use their warranties, and the best warranty is the one they don't need to use. True statement, but back it up by giving your customers the great warranty that they don't need to use.
 
Honda talks a big talk but they don't back it up by carrying a big stick. They may have all the muscles(perceived quality) but they don't back it up with the goods(warranty).
 
Hyundai may not have the flexing power(and definitely don't have the perceived quality), but they're willing to back up their talk with their walk. Whether they get beat up in the process is irrelevant. They made a statement and backed it up with action. That's respect to me.
 
I have an Elantra that I never used a warranty for and is running great! But if I had a Honda, I'd already be out of it.
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Re: Pros and Cons [backy] by kingsalmon
Oct 12, 2007 (3:59 am)

Replying to: backy (Oct 11, 2007 8:25 pm)

I think he's being sarcastic Backy...
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and yet by benjaminh
Oct 12, 2007 (4:27 am)
the Hyundai factory in the US is closing to reduce inventories of the Sonata. The Sonata is a great car for the money, but sales have only been so-so.
 
It may be silly to some, but that was a another factor for me in my decision. More than 350,000 Accords are sold every year, dealers are everywhere, and service and parts are readily available. That's not quite as true with Hyundai.
 
Also, for those able to afford the higher trims, there are features that you can get on the Accord that aren't available on the Sonata, like Navigation, Bluetooth, etc.
 
The Sonata looks like a very safe car, but my guess is that the ACE body structure Honda uses is even more advanced.
 
Still, if I was on a tighter budget, I probably would have bought the Sonata. As far as I can tell you can get one for 16k, and for that price you just can't beat it, which is why I'm surprised they aren't selling more of them.
 
It's nice that the Sonata has a loyal following, as is proved by the posts on this thread!

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