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Re: Did I miss something? [bimmer4me] by macakava
Oct 11, 2007 (4:18 am)

Replying to: bimmer4me (Oct 10, 2007 6:13 pm)

"Personally, I will take a good look at Hyundai for my next purchase...they're catching up to the Japanese at a fast pace."
 
You have an open mind to progress that can be made by a manufacturer. Like babies, every company has to start walking before it can run with the others. That's why Toyota's CEO has said that he is more concerned about the Koreans than the domestics or Europeans. My other car is a Honda Ody and with my Sonata side by side in my garage, I do not see any significant quality differences between the 2 internally or externally. The 2 "H"'s, one straight/vertical and other flying/slanted, do complement each other.
 
Being a lead footer, I do know that the Sonata, at a measured 0 - 60 mph of 6.6 secs by C & D, is much faster than the already quick for a minivan time of 7.6 secs measured (by C & D) for the Ody. They are both equally fun to drive as well.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [thegraduate] by macakava
Oct 11, 2007 (4:34 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 10, 2007 10:05 pm)

$20,995 is likely for the base Accord. Comparing similar features, I could have bought a base new 2007 Sonata 4-cyl, AT with rebates for $13,995 in NC when I got my loaded Sonata Limited. But the base Sonata has more features than the base competitors. My interest was not in the base model - but $13,995 is cheaper than a Civic!
 
For 2007 year comparo, I do know that the Sonata had the largest interior volume size at 105 cub feet for passenger and 16 cu feet for the trunk. I believe that the 2008 Accord is now larger with similar interior size. This is full size territory and it feels like it.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [thegraduate] by joe97
Oct 11, 2007 (5:18 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 10, 2007 10:05 pm)

LOL...looks as if the C/D person at the reserach department took a sick day at the time of publishing.
 
In fact, with a starting price of $20,995, the Accord is the second least expensive full-size automobile available today. We’re sure that’s no accident, as size matters in America as it does in no other country in the world.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [joe97] by falmouth
Oct 11, 2007 (8:05 am)

Replying to: joe97 (Oct 11, 2007 5:18 am)

What is the least expensive then ? I Don't think Hyundai has anything fullsized.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [falmouth] by joe97
Oct 11, 2007 (8:09 am)

Replying to: falmouth (Oct 11, 2007 8:05 am)

The Sonata by a mile.
 
And Hyundai has two full-size cars. The Sonata and the Azera.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [falmouth] by robertsmx
Oct 11, 2007 (8:39 am)

Replying to: falmouth (Oct 11, 2007 8:05 am)

Until you count the trunk space. EPA's size definition gives as much importance to cabin volume as it does to trunk volume. But the bigger problem is, how do automakers measure trunk space? Some seem to be using SAE standard. And others use VDA method.
 
I don't think EPA specifies the standard. I learnt about this a few years ago, while reading a European article on the issue. A Ford cargo van was the test mule, and due to varying standards used, there was 10-15% difference in quoted cargo volume depending on the method used.
 
This issue is similar to quoting payload/towing capacity on trucks. Some might include a driver and a passenger or two with some stuff. Others may just have the driver. It all makes a difference.
 
To quote an example, the new Mercedes C350 has a whopping 16.8 cu ft trunk. But, that is using SAE standard. With VDA method (used by MB and Honda, and many European automakers who will often quote both numbers) the same trunk "shrinks" to just 12.4 cu ft.
 
The problem: Very few are aware of this.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [thesniper] by macakava
Oct 11, 2007 (9:06 am)

I guess one can also say that the cheaper Civic cannot outsell the more expensive Camry or Accord for that level of thinking.
 
The final decision on any particular car choice depends on one or some of the various personal reasons discussed at length in this forum. These include, but are not limited to practicality, value for money/size/features, perceived superiority of chosen vehicle/make/ brand loyalty/diving fun/quality/reliability, etc.
 
We have both the vertical H and the flying H in our garages. They are both in the family and enjoyable for their intended purposes. An open mind to changes and progress with the times.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [joe97] by macakava
Oct 11, 2007 (9:11 am)

Replying to: joe97 (Oct 11, 2007 8:09 am)

With 100 cu feet of passenger space the lower limit for full size cars, the Sonata with 105 cu feet qualifies as full size even though it is classified mid-sized.
 
Maybe there should be another term called full/mid size.
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Re: C&D Test Drives Accord [macakava] by robertsmx
Oct 11, 2007 (9:23 am)

Replying to: macakava (Oct 11, 2007 9:11 am)

By definition, full size qualification is based on cabin volume PLUS trunk volume. So, a car with 99 cu ft but 21 cu ft trunk would be considered a full sized car, as would a car with 110 cu ft cabin with 10 cu ft trunk.

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