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Re: I still think the Sonata is a better value. [flc2006] by robertsmx
Sep 14, 2007 (8:27 pm)

Replying to: flc2006 (Sep 14, 2007 6:16 pm)

I compared 1998 Accord's I-4 to 2002 (I think) Sonata's V6. And the I-4 was easily the all around winner.
 
The newer V6 in Sonata is better but the drive train isn't up to Honda's standards. Besides, Honda's new I-4 is far more powerful than the old one in my 1998. More fuel efficient too.
 
I think V6 engines are mostly a waste. While driving my TL around with virtually no vibration/sound from the engine during cruising transforming to a pleasant growl under acceleration is fun, 150 HP in my 3200 lb Accord was plenty (those 150 HP probably translate to about 145 HP under the new standard). It is a car that has superb response to overtake vehicles on busy 2-lane highways. Which is another comparison where the Hyundai V6 lost, despite having 30+ lb-ft (and 20+ HP) more at its disposal. I had to pull back to overtake, due to poor response and lack of brisk acceleration. Never been a problem with Accord. It still drives like it is late 1990s (I have 181K miles on it).
 
You don't need to worry about my mind. I need to worry about my satisfaction, and value for my money, however.
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Re: I still think the Sonata is a better value. [robertsmx] by lightfootfl
Sep 15, 2007 (5:20 am)

Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 14, 2007 8:27 pm)

Dunno who this should refer to, but whoever - - might be interested. May I just suggest that you try driving a newer Sonata, 2006,2007 or 2008 in either the 4 or 6 cyl. You will probably change your mind about its abilities.
van
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Re: I still think the Sonata is a better value. [lightfootfl] by robertsmx
Sep 15, 2007 (11:42 am)

Replying to: lightfootfl (Sep 15, 2007 5:20 am)

I've done that quite a few times. Sonatas are readily available at rental centers.
 
Hyundai has improved, but so have "the others".
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Re: I still think the Sonata is a better value. [robertsmx] by flc2006
Sep 15, 2007 (1:25 pm)

Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 14, 2007 8:27 pm)

That is your opinion,I keep on telling you that i will buy hyundai's, you will buy the honda's.
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take your pick! by slamtaz
Sep 15, 2007 (3:55 pm)

Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 15, 2007 11:42 am)

i agree that the accord is better than the sonata in terms of perceived quality (i.e. by about 10% at most but of course, i believe its a lot less than that).
 
but then again, the accord is realistically more expensive (i.e. by about 30% at least and with less features).
 
take your pick!
 
i'll get the sonata, anytime.
 
of course, we did for about $5,000 less than the accord with a lot more features on the sonata, at that! and we're looking at owning ours for the next 10 years, at least, backed by hyundai's 10 yr warranty
 
about resale value, we own cars for keeps. we have a 1988 pathfinder w/ 150,000 miles & a 1993 previa w/ 255,000 miles. we own them till they conk-out. in my experience, their longevity depends largely on how you maintain them.
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Re: take your pick! [slamtaz] by godeacs
Sep 15, 2007 (7:49 pm)

Replying to: slamtaz (Sep 15, 2007 3:55 pm)

I hear this all the time about what a great deal the Sonata is over the Accord (depreciation and re-sale value notwithstanding!). Please tell me what trim Sonata is $5K cheaper than what trim Accord. Also would like to know what are the "a lot more features" the Sonata has over the Accord. Inquiring minds want to know! Forgive me if I am skeptical....
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Re: take your pick! [godeacs] by backy
Sep 15, 2007 (8:12 pm)

Replying to: godeacs (Sep 15, 2007 7:49 pm)

Feature-wise the difference is much narrower now with the debut of the 2008 Accord. For example, ESC used to be unavailable on I4 Accords while it was standard on all Sonatas. But for 2008 Honda has made ESC standard on all Accords. Maybe what some people were saying is that you get more features for your money with Sonata because you can get a higher trim level (e.g. the top-end Limited) for the same price as (or even less than) a lower-trim Accord.
 
The $5000-or-so difference in price comes about because:
 
* Sonatas start off being less expensive than comparably-equipped Accords. For example, the 2008 Accord EX-L V6 has an MSRP including destination of $28,695. The Sonata Limited with moonroof is $25,745--nearly a $3000 difference right there.
* Also, Hyundai typically offers manufacturer-to-buyer rebates on the Sonata. The current general rebate is $1000 and there's also a $500 loyalty rebate to current Hyundai owners. However, the rebates have usually been larger, more in the $2000-2500 range for general rebates. They are smaller now probably because there are still 2007s on dealer lots. The general rebate on those now is $2500, with $500 owner loyalty (this is for MN, can vary by state). Honda has never (?) offered direct-to-buyer rebates, although it did offer incentives to dealers on the previous-generation Accords. With the new Accord, those have disappeared for now.
* Dealer discounts are pretty easy to get on the Sonata, down to invoice or below. The markup over invoice on the Sonata Limited mentioned above is $1,643. Deep discounts were available on the previous-generation Accord, but I think it's unlikely there will be deep discounts on the 2008 Accord for awhile.
 
All these factors add up to the ability to get a Sonata for $5000 or so less than an Accord.
#52 of 664
Re: take your pick! [backy] by flc2006
Sep 15, 2007 (8:21 pm)

Replying to: backy (Sep 15, 2007 8:12 pm)

Thank you.
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Re: take your pick! [godeacs] by slamtaz
Sep 15, 2007 (9:41 pm)

Replying to: godeacs (Sep 15, 2007 7:49 pm)

During the time we're shopping, we were comparing quotes between the 07 sonata SE V6 & 07 accord LX V6. Actually, the camry, altima & mazda 6 were also in our short list but since this is a sonata/accord thread, then i'll just limit it to those two. before TTL, we got the sonata for almost $17k and the lowest we can get for the accord was $22k+.
 
the features that i personally find important in the sonata were:
1. fog lights
2. shiftable A/T
3. bigger interior & luggage space (i.e. all dimensions considered) rated as large car
4. 5 stars in both frontal & side impact collision
5. 10 yrs ltd power train, 5 yrs ltd bumper-2-bumper/roadside assist/anti-perforation.
 
since we own cars for keeps, its my belief that the extended warranty lends better peace of mind. i know of honda's sterling reliability record but much like stocks/equities, historical data/yield is & never will guarantee the future performance.
 
no worries, i believe that the accord is the better car over-all, i just prefer the sonata because it fits my needs better.
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I'll stick with Hyundai. Thank you. by autokritiker
Sep 16, 2007 (12:19 am)
Make that a USED Hyundai Sonata. I just can't make sense of paying 300 to 400 or more every month for new car, or for a trendy used car with a high resale value. Just not worth it to me!
 
I'll be paying 10,000 to 11,000 down, and my monthly payments will be no more than $135.
 
With the extra money I'll have left over, I'll have the car paid off within 3 years max, at which point it will have only 60,000 miles or less on the odometer.
 
Why a Hyundai? I've beaten my poor little '01 Hyundai Accent so badly all its life, you'd swear I hate the car. It has 155,000 miles on it and still keeps taking a beating.
Never even had to use the warranty.
 
I would keep the Accent another 6 years, but I'm a dad now and I need something bigger and safer. As much as I'm looking forward to getting the Sonata, I will really miss my good old Accent.

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