Hyundai Sonata vs Honda Accord - READ ONLY

664 messages,  Last post on Oct 12, 2007 at 4:33 PM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Honda Accord, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#107 of 664 Re: take your pick! [backy] by robertsmx

Sep 19, 2007 (9:31 am)

Replying to: backy (Sep 18, 2007 7:17 pm)
One thing I noticed on the 2008 Accord is that it has inside door pulls that look very much like the 2008 Sonata's--a faux aluminum finish.
 
I have not seen the Accord in person yet but speaking of door pulls...
2008 Accord

2004+ TL

 
And this is 2006+ Civic

 
I'm now wondering which car inspired Hyundai for that finish to the door pull.
 
PS. Chrome door pull was an Accord tradition, now replaced with a satin finish, looks similar to TL's.
 
Yes, I agree the plood on the Accord looks... um... substantial. Yes, that's it. So does the plood on my sister's vintage Buick.
 
That would be one of Buick's strength. Now, do you want me to tell you the weaknesses?
 
I think Honda went overboard on the amount of plood on the EX.
If this is going overboard...

 
What would Genesis represent?

#108 of 664 Re: take your pick! [backy] by robertsmx

Sep 19, 2007 (9:50 am)

Replying to: backy (Sep 18, 2007 8:13 pm)
Veracruz's dash is a copy of...

 

Like I said earlier, Hyundai/Kia have a pretty good history on their side.
 
Hyundai got this one and with too much on-your-face shiny plastic. If thats the dash in 2008 Sonata, I wonder if reviewers and people around here will be complaining about too many buttons, small buttons, cluttered dash...

#109 of 664 Re: take your pick! [robertsmx] by backy

Sep 19, 2007 (10:44 am)

Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 19, 2007 9:31 am)
I think you are forgetting Sonata had the fake aluminum door pulls 3 years ago (counting ROK debut). So who is copying whom?
 
These photos remind me the Accord's interior looks better in grey/black, w/o all the plood, and the silvery trim better matches the door pulls. Also the grey dash doesn't make the all-black center console (w/o any silvery trim on the LX/LX-P) look as stark/cheap.
 
I guess it depends on whether you like the brushed aluminum look on a dash, ala Veracruz and Lexus, or the lots-of-black-plastic-buttoms look of the Accord. I think the Veracruz and Lexus look richer than the Accord's dash, but everyone's different.
 
The excessive plood that I was referring to on the Accord is on the doors--the big patch on the front and even bigger patch on the rear (not pictured). The amount on the dash is just about right.

#110 of 664 Re: take your pick! [backy] by robertsmx

Sep 19, 2007 (2:05 pm)

Replying to: backy (Sep 19, 2007 10:44 am)
I think you are forgetting Sonata had the fake aluminum door pulls 3 years ago (counting ROK debut). So who is copying whom?
 
Didn't I mention TL? It has had it, now fifth year in the running. And I didn't mention S2000. When did that car arrive?
 
Never associate Hyundai as being original with something. Chances are, I will end up beating the dead horse, again.
 
The excessive plood that I was referring to on the Accord is on the doors--the big patch on the front and even bigger patch on the rear (not pictured). The amount on the dash is just about right.
 
Is it worse than Sonata? What do you call that?

#111 of 664 Copying by pat

Sep 19, 2007 (3:48 pm)

Why care who copied whom?
 
We need to be talking about the features and attributes of the subject vehicles. If feature1 in car1 was copied by the maker of car2 as feature2, who cares?? Why care? Isn't the point that the feature exists and is available to someone evaluating each car?
 
Please let's drop this line of argument. It's not the least bit helpful to anyone trying to choose between these two vehicles.

#112 of 664 Re: take your pick! [robertsmx] by backy

Sep 19, 2007 (4:51 pm)

Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 19, 2007 2:05 pm)
I call it a Sonata I guess, but if you were referring to how much plood it has, I thought I already gave my opinion on that--it's not excessive, although obviously not BMW or Mercedes quality wood trim (nor should it be for the price). I'm not a big fan of plood overall.

#113 of 664 Re: take your pick! [robertsmx] by targettuning

Sep 20, 2007 (6:09 am)

Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 19, 2007 9:31 am)
For your information I own a 2006 Civic and if your center picture is supposed to be, as you have it labeled, a current gen. Civic it is incorrect. It may be a non-U.S. version but our Civic has a "hole' in the armrest for the fingers NOT that large rather substantial looking door pull. Our 1986-87-88 Taurus's did have this however.

#114 of 664 Re: take your pick! [targettuning] by robertsmx

Sep 20, 2007 (9:43 am)

Replying to: targettuning (Sep 20, 2007 6:09 am)
The top picture is Accord sedan.
 
The middle picture is TL.
 
The third picture is from a Civic Coupe (Accord Coupe gets similar door handle). I didn't want to post interior picture of Civic sedan since it doesn't show the door pull. Plus, the idea was to relate Honda's existing (or past) design elements.

#115 of 664 Re: More for Less [flc2006] by eldaino

Sep 20, 2007 (11:03 am)

Replying to: flc2006 (Sep 18, 2007 7:15 pm)
I'm a Hyundai fanatic of course im gonna disagree with you that is the way it is, you the same, I love Hyundai's, you love Honda's.
 
if the general consensus is that a hyundai fan is not going to be convinced to drive anything other than a hyundai, and that the honda fan will do the same...
 
what the hell was the point in your creation of this thread? to incite people to fight? to start having everyone bringing up sales numbers because thats apparently a 'good' way to prove a car is 'better'?
 
Another general consensus is that honda people just WONT consider another car. I can safely say thats not true. The price premium of a civic and the unavailability of a honda fit was what made my wife an i go to (of all manufacturers) VW. The rabbit defintely one upped the civic with regards to feature content, be it base level or not.
 
But you know what? i never felt as good driving it as i did the civic. And thats a feeling that many honda people rever and are not willing to give that up just to try something new.
 
So you drive a sonata and love it. Fine. If you want bragging rights on how much money you saved fine.
 
But UNLIKE hyundai drivers, HONDA guys have this little requirement that the accord SATISFIES, and that the sonata doesn't: driver connection to the road. A superb steering feel. Fantastic ergonomics. Better materials. (sorry. i'd take a hyundai over a comparable domestic, and i'll be the first to admit the interior is much nicer than they used to be, but it simply is NOT up to par with honda standards. Its not an opinion people, not if you have eyes.)
 
This is what differentiates hondaphiles from hyundaists. A regard for sporting character. The sonata simply doesn't have it. It tried to 'look' it by imitating the accord, but a drive totally puts it to rest. And from what i have read i this thread, many hyundai people have no regard for handling, steering feel, so so ergonomics and a taut suspension. Thats fine. You want a good a-b car. Nothing wrong with that.
 
But in the same manner that its not really ok to call hyundai crap, its not ok to call honda guys out on sporting reasons they choose the accord. if it wasn't special, it wouldn't be awareded the way it has, or take home1st place bragging rights in comparisons with the competition. If you don't think its worth the extra dough, thats fine, stick to your hyundai! Nothing wrong with that! But there is nothing wrong with wanting a car that isn't BLAH with regards to driving dynamics just because its a midsize sedan.

#116 of 664 veracruz interior by eldaino

Sep 20, 2007 (11:11 am)

if the sonatas does end up looking like this(which would be a huge improvment) it looks very VERY much so like the new 08 accords.
 
i dont mind beating the dead horse. some people just don't get it. i doubt this thread is helping anyone decide what car to get. it was created to incite arguments.
 
the picture of the current gen sonata interior is horrible. how can you say that is better than honda anything?

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