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#81 of 165 Re: X-plan buyers [mschmal]
Feb 11, 2008 (10:37 am)
My company participates in the X-plan program. We currently have a 2004 Mercury Mountaineer w/Luxury Package & V-8 AWD. It has been a great vehicle,but the one problem besides the obvious MPG of 12 city and 20 Highway is the leg room in the middle row of seats. My youngest Son is 15 and is 6'4" tall. His knees are up against the back of the front seat and the seats cause him back pain on trips more than a couple of hours because they do not recline. We checked out the Mazda CX-9, the Hyundai Santa Fe and Veracruz and found both with the exact same problem. At first look in 2007 I didn't care for the Edge, but decided to go to our local Ford Dealer and take a closer look. Took an Edge Limited out for a test drive and it was great. The rear leg room was the best in it's class as far as I can tell by my research. Last weekend my wife and I brought our Son along to sit in the back seats. We found them very disappointing because when he reclined to get in a comfortable position his head was hitting against the headliner in the rear cargo area. Why on earth would Ford drop the ceiling a couple of inches and reduce the headroom? Great legroom, but again we cannot find a midsized Crossover that has both the Legroom and Headroom needed in the back. We may check out the Saturn Outlook. From what I've read with the captain chairs they can be slid back to accomodate taller people. Really loved the looks, the interior and the way the Edge drove. Really disappointed though.
#82 of 165 Re: X-plan buyers [mtnman1]
Feb 11, 2008 (11:02 am)
Good grief - how tall is he? Did it have the BAMR (vista roof)? That will sacrifice a couple of inches of headroom. I haven't heard anyone else complain about rear seat headroom.
#83 of 165 Re: X-plan buyers [mtnman1]
Feb 11, 2008 (3:13 pm)
FWIW I have a 2006 Explorer and the second row seat backs do recline quite far. If you like the Mountaineer enough to get another I'm sure the backs recline in those now too. Plus the 4.6L modular V8 in the new Mountaineer is more powerful and fuel efficient than the one in your '04.
#84 of 165 Re: X-plan buyers [akirby]
Feb 11, 2008 (4:56 pm)
As I mentioned in my prior post my son is 6' 4" tall. The car didn't have a vista roof which is something that we would definitely want, but because of the issue with his head hitting the roof we won't be able to consider. Now the thing I didn't mention is that the day our son came with us was very cold so he sat in the back seat of an '07 that was on the showroom floor. The Salesman that we've been dealing with didn't say that the '08 was any better when I mentioned the issue.
#85 of 165 Re: X-plan buyers [baggs32]
Feb 11, 2008 (5:06 pm)
I really love the Explorer and Mountaineer. We have thought about getting one with the Captain Chairs which probably do recline. But even if they do recline the specs show that legroom has not improved. At least not the amount you get in the Edge. The price is a bit prohibitive this time around since our '04 had an MSRP of just over $38K. Of course we didn't pay that much. I think we paid $33,800 with X-Plan and then there was a $3500 or $4000 rebate after state taxes. With my son due to go to college in a few years we thought we might try to stay around $32K with Rebates and discounts. Also, we do like the sound of possibly getting 24 MPG on the Highway with the possibility of it being better than that. Our Mountaineer was only rated to get 18MPG, but it usually gets 20 MPG. What was shocking to me was when we started to get an idea what we might be able to sell it for with only 35,000 miles on it. Huge depreciation and more than anything it is because not many people want a V-8 when fuel prices are so high.
#86 of 165 Re: X-plan buyers [mtnman1]
Feb 11, 2008 (6:59 pm)
The price is a bit prohibitive this time around since our '04 had an MSRP of just over $38K. Of course we didn't pay that much. I think we paid $33,800 with X-Plan and then there was a $3500 or $4000 rebate after state taxes. With my son due to go to college in a few years we thought we might try to stay around $32K with Rebates and discounts.
A lot has changed since '04 actually. Ford did drop the price of all trim levels a year or two ago and right now I see a $3500 rebate on the '08 Explorer in my neck of the woods.
We have a V6 model and consistently averaged 22 mpg on our 3 long highway trips this past Summer. City is 13-14 all the time but we were more than pleased with the highway mileage. Of course YMMV.
I'm not trying to say the Explorer and Mountaineer are the end all, be all for you. But they might be worth a look. I'm pretty sure the captain chairs recline too but I know our split bench 2nd row definitely does.
#87 of 165 Re: X-plan buyers [mtnman1]
Feb 12, 2008 (12:33 pm)
I am 6'4" and can sit in the back seat of my wife's Edge Limited w/o BAMR and my head does not hit. Your son must have a long torso rather than leg length. I have a 36" inseam. You are right about the Edge being the roomiest in the second row. Good luck!
#88 of 165 Re: X-plan buyers [hardhawk]
Feb 12, 2008 (2:03 pm)
One more thing you may want to consider mtnman1 is the cargo space. The Edge looks good to us too having 2 small children and wanting to keep the monthly payment down. However, the cargo space is not impressive. It's probably going to be worth it for us to pay an extra $20-$50 per month (we lease) for a larger SUV/CUV when it's time to take the Explorer back because of all the crap we have to haul around. You will be doing the same thing at least twice a year with a college boung child so keep that in mind.
I do like the Edge a lot and it's still on the short list. But I'm not sure the size is right for us just yet unfortunately.
#89 of 165 I want to like this CUV......
Feb 12, 2008 (6:53 pm)
I really do. Drove a 2007 SEL+ (same as 2008 limited supposed), and the ride, handling space were all there. body felt tight, no gaps, creaks, rattles, etc. However...
Its sorely lacking refinement. The interior quality was pretty lousy compared to other CUVs in this segment (Acura RDX, Lexus RX350, Mazda CX-7). Lots of hard plastic on the doors and dash. Leather finish seemed very vinyl like, and cheap, although the seats were quite comfortable.Engine seemed harsh, and the transmission often hunted for gears. No manual shifting available. With just a little more refinement, this would be a very competitive CUV.
Now..the dealer did say originall that the 07 and 08 were the same. I've seen the "sync" system before, and I know that rocks. Is the interior quality any better?
#90 of 165 Re: I want to like this CUV...... [proteus456]
Feb 13, 2008 (1:26 pm)
Our 2008 Edge Limited is a little less refined than some CUV's out there. However, the more refined ones are usually thousands more in cost. Our leather is good, if a little grainy in texture, and the seats are VERY comfortable. The door trim is hard and less refined than some, but not enough to say no to the car. The incredible second row room was the deciding factor for us. We also have a 2002 GMC Envoy SLT. The GMC interior, even after 6.5 years of use, is still more refined in appearance, but it was a more expensive MSRP even in July of 2001. However, for a road trip we will take the Edge over the GMC any time in terms of driving and comfort. The GMC does, however, do a great job at pulling our 5000# boat/trailer and is still a nice vehicle. We experience NO gear hunting or harsh engine noise at all in the Edge. The doors do sound a little tinny when you shut them, however. The Edge is not perfect but it is a great vehicle for the $$$ in my humble opinion. The 2008 Limited dash trim is different (we like it better) than the 2007, but that is a personal preference. Overall we are very happy with the Edge. SYNC is very useful and a big safety factor for us.