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Re: 08 Ford Edge in the Snow [saudi_prince]
by goatee
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Mar 16, 2008 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: saudi_prince (Mar 16, 2008 4:19 pm)
I cant speak for the 20" Pirelli's but I do have the 18"Michelins on my 08 AWD and I had no problem whatsoever. We just had a huge storm here in NE Ohio last week and the Edge was unstoppable. If it were me, I wouldnt worry about snow tires, but of course if you live in a colder climate then it maybe wouldnt be such a bad investment.
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Re: X-plan buyers [mtnman1]
by mtnman1
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Mar 19, 2008 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Mar 03, 2008 4:45 pm)
My Wife and I recently decided to start looking at purchasing a new Suv or Crossover that would give us the legroom in the second row seats. We considered the Edge for awhile, but then we checked out the Saturn Outlook. This is an unbelievable vehicle is all I can say. We have the Supplier Price through my Employer for GM as well as the X-Plan for Ford. I can get and Outlook FWD XR with the Convenience, Enhanced Conveniece, Skylight Roof, Premium Package, second row Captains Chairs, and Enhanced Audio Packages all for just over $35K. The ride in this thing is far superior to the Edge and the smoothness of the 6 speed transmission is a thing of beauty. The legroom is great in the second row as well as a real 3rd row that Adults can use. It has the interior space of a Yukon or Expedition and yet gets the same EPA MPG rating as the Edge. We thought the Edge was nice (still do), but after driving the Outlook my Wife and I are spoiled. Now if we can just get someone willing to buy our 2004 Mountaineer Luxury V8 AWD that gets 12 mpg around town with fuel prices reaching $3.50 around here we will buy the Outlook. Just mentioning this to other Edge shoppers that they need to check out this vehicle and I've been partial to Ford the past 10 years or so.
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- #118 of 165
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Re: Edge - Ride, Passing Power [thegraduate]
by mtnman1
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Mar 20, 2008 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 10, 2008 11:06 am)
The Hyundai Santa Fe may fit the bill. Right now there is a $2000 Rebate, so they could probably get a Limited which would be pretty loaded for around $28K. This Suv was rated the top pick in the Mid Sized Class in Consumer Reports 2008 Auto Issue that just came out a month ago. I would consider one, but second row seats, as is in most Mid Size Suvs, didn't have the legroom for my 6' 4" 15 year old Son. I've looked at them and the fit and finish of the interior is great and I hear the ride is very good with little interior road noise.
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- #119 of 165
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Re: Edge - Ride, Passing Power [mtnman1]
by thegraduate
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Mar 20, 2008 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Mar 20, 2008 5:18 am)
After hearing from a coworker who has had nothing but trips to the dealer with her VeraCruz Limited, I'm not sure they are going to go the Hyundai route anymore unfortunately. I've tried to get them to test the Santa Fe though, so I'm not sure it is off their list completely; the VeraCruz is, however.
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Re: X-plan buyers [mtnman1]
by hardhawk
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Mar 20, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Mar 19, 2008 2:03 pm)
The Outlook/Enclave/Acadia are totally different vehicles than the Edge. We looked at them as well before getting our Edge. The second row legroom was far short compared to the Edge, but they did have the 3rd row. My knees hit the back of the front seat in the GM triplets but not in the Edge. My wife liked the Enclave best of the 3 GM models (We don't have any Saturn dealers within 100 miles), but pricing was high and there were no deals to be had. The Saturns are not selling as well in our state as the Acadia and especially the Enclave and the dealers have more of them in stock, so you may be able to get a better deal on one of them. We decided that we didn't need the 3rd row enough to justify the additional cost. Besides, 2nd row comfort was also more important than having the 3rd row and another concern was the overall size of the vehicle. If you need the extra row and larger size, the Outlook would be a great vehicle. We didn't, and liked the increased 2nd row comfort and smaller size of the Edge. I would speculate that the gas mileage on the Outlook is going to be worse than the Edge as well. We have friends who have bought the Acadia and have been very disappointed with the mileage of it, saying that it is no where near what the window sticker says it should be. Bottom line is go with what suits your needs best. The car magazines have consistently liked the Maxda CX-9 best for a large 3 row crossover, so you should probably go check those out as well. At this point, you might also want to wait for the 2009 Ford Flex 3 row crossover coming out this summer. It is great to have so many good choices.
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Re: X-plan buyers [hardhawk]
by mtnman1
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Mar 20, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: hardhawk (Mar 20, 2008 8:50 am)
Actually the second row seats are on a rail that adds a couple of inches which gives you about the same legroom as the Edge. I'm not knocking the Edge at all. The Saturn Outlooks fit and finish were just better than the Edge Limited. We looked at the CX-9 a couple of months ago, but there was not enough legroom. Saturn does not haggle on price, but sets their prices lower than GM and Buick for basically the same vehicles. I get a discount through my Employer which is similar to the same one that I get using the X-Plan for Ford. All I can say that after actually driving the Outlook and the Edge that in my opinion there was no comparison in ride, acceleration, and cabin noise. The Outlook was far superior. It is a large vehicle, so as far as MPG I can't say how that will be. I get 20 MPG on the Highway in my Mountaineer even though it was rated to be 18. I only get about 12 mpg around town though, so I think it has more to do with the way you drive and the conditions of the weather and how well you maintain your car. Also, as I'm sure that you are aware, I've found that you really don't know what your MPG will be until you've put about 5,000 miles on a new car. Mine has always dramatically improved over time.
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Re: X-plan buyers [mtnman1]
by hardhawk
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Mar 20, 2008 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Mar 20, 2008 9:17 am)
I think the Outlook is a great vehicle if it is what you need. Even with the 2nd row seats as far back as they would go, the 2nd row legroom was not as good for me in either the Acadia or Enclave as it is in the Edge. I am 6'4" with a 36" inseam so it may just be the way I am built that made such a noticeable difference between the vehicles on legroom and knee room. Unless I needed to tow our boat with it I would certainly get one of the GM triplets if I wanted a 3 row CUV. They are an excellent product and a big advance for GM. If you get the Saturn, I am certain that you will enjoy it. The Edge worked best for us and we are very happy with it. It is the first Ford product we have ever owned, as we have always ususally had GM with a few Chrysler models thrown into the mix.
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- #123 of 165
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Re: Edge - Ride, Passing Power [thegraduate]
by mtnman1
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Mar 20, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 20, 2008 6:26 am)
I think Consumer Reports mentioned that the Veracruz had some problems. I would encourage you to at least mention that the Sante Fe is a different vehicle and maybe they can locate the CR Issue which is put out yearly on all vehicles new and used. Of course, CR is a bit biased towards Japanese cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) which really makes me believe the Sante Fe must be pretty good when it's rated the #1 pick for 2008.
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Re: X-plan buyers [hardhawk]
by mtnman1
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Mar 20, 2008 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: hardhawk (Mar 20, 2008 11:08 am)
My son is 6' 4" as well, but with a 34" inseam. And I thought his legs were long for his body. The problem we had with the Edge when we were getting serious about buying it was when my Son sat in the back and reclined his head was touching the liner of the roof where it dips down just before the hatch. I guess it's like you pretty much said that it's what you're happy with. Good luck with the Edge. They are along with the Fusion & Milan some of the best vehicles Ford has put out in a long time. I'm always rooting for the American Car Companies.
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- #125 of 165
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Re: X-plan buyers [mtnman1]
by explorerx4
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Mar 20, 2008 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Mar 20, 2008 2:15 pm)
like your son, i have a 34" inseam, althought i am not as tall. i looked at the edge, escape and fusion.
my impression after riding in an edge a couple of times (with vista roof), are that it is a super sized escape, although the drivetrain was more powerful/refined.
i thought the rear seat was low and could have lived with it but have a problem with the headroom. the rear seatback does recline.
i ended up buying an awd fusion and i do barely fit in the back seat, as far as headroom goes.
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