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#136 of 186 Re: Malfunction of TPS of Hyundai Veracuz caused SUV Crash [pervaizq]
May 18, 2009 (8:14 pm)
On October 29, 2008, I bought a USED Hyundai Veracruz, 2007 model, The mileage on date of purchase was 8,700 and now it is 12,425. The car was used to drive to work from home and run errands around Jersey City, NJ.
On April 23, 2009, while I was running errands on Tonnele Ave, Jersey City NJ, I noticed the speed of my SUV gradually getting slower even though I was pressing on the gas pedal. My speed kept decreasing and did not increase as I accelerated.
As I was making a right turn onto John F. Kennedy BLVD from Manhattan Ave, I noticed that my Check Engine Light appeared on the car’s dashboard screen. After making the right turn from Manhattan Ave onto John F. Kennedy BLVD, I lost the vehicle control caused me to drove into the driveway on John F. Kennedy BLVD where I hit two parked cars.
My SUV stopped upon impact of hitting two cars and severe damage was done to the right side of my car because of such impact. Thankfully, no one was injured. My speed after turning was between 10-15 mph. It was a bright clear day, no rain or snow.
After the accident, I called the Police and GEICO, who insure my vehicle. GEICO sent my SUV to Hudson Auto Group dealership to find out if there was any malfunction. The Hudson Auto Group concluded malfunction of (THROTEL POSITION SENSOR—TPS) codes P2106-P1295-P0638. The dealership removed and replaced the TPS malfunction and performed an ECM update, following procedures TSB#09-FL-003 (See attached report).
My insurance adjuster told me that it is Hyundai’s responsibility to assess and repair the other damages done to my vehicle because of this accident. I was told that Hyundai Motor USA will be inspecting my vehicle and assessing the damages.
Upon recent research, I learned that there are many recalls had been issued for my vehicle by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (N.H.T.S.A). (N.H.T.S.A CAMPAIGN ID 09V12200, MGFS REPORT DATE APIRAL 14, 2009) I was unaware of these recalls and DID NOT receive any notice of these recalls prior to my accident on April 23rd, 2009.
My last service (maintenance) was performed by Hudson Hyundai on February 28, 2009. I was told everything was fine and the oil change was performed as requested. There was no discussion of the recall or anything that may have helped me to avoid this accident. I did not expect this type of negligence from Hyundai Motors USA.
I have lost all my confidence in Hyundai as this accident was both traumatic and shocking for me, an incident I would not like to repeat in the future to anyone who has
any Hyundai. Wish all Hyundai owners to save drive
Interesting post. Glad you're okay. Please keep us updated as to Hyundai's formal response.
#137 of 186 Re: Malfunction of TPS of Hyundai Veracuz caused SUV Crash [pervaizq]
May 18, 2009 (8:47 pm)
I think you're going to have a hard time convincing Hyundai that they caused you to lose control of your vehicle. If there were an engine surge, then possibly, but your Veracruz was decelerating at the time, according to your description. There is nothing there that would cause you to lose control.
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#138 of 186 Re: Malfunction of TPS of Hyundai Veracuz caused SUV Crash [tidester]
May 19, 2009 (5:12 am)
Sounds like the engine cut out causing the power steering to fail that can cause a loss of control, one moment your steering is easy, the next, the steering is stiff as a board, and return to center very slow. Yes I can see it being an issue where the engine cutting out can cause a loss of control, it all depends on the timing, so Hyundai may be responsible for some part of this.
#139 of 186 Re: Malfunction of TPS of Hyundai Veracuz caused SUV Crash [acdii]
May 19, 2009 (5:41 am)
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#140 of 186 Throttle Safety Issue
Jun 27, 2009 (7:23 am)
My 2007 Veracruz limited had a check engine light illuminate on 8/20/08 while my wife was driving with our young daughter car. The car jolted and vibrated and would not accelerate. I was advised by the local dealer the car had a throttle warning code 2106, but that it cycled through and was fine without repair. The dealer test drove it for 30 miles to ensure there were no issues.
Following that the car was driven without incident until it occurred again on 9/17/08, with my wife driving our young daughter again. This time I was told the following errors appeared:
2135 - Throttle Body
2106 - ?
1295 - ?
I was advised a Service Bulletin had been issued to dealers in February for this, and they were replacing the Throttle Body unit, which would take care of everything. The dealer stated they had replaced the unit on 3-4 cars to date and that it took care of the issue I was having.
Following the throttle body unit replacement, we had no further issues until last night. On the way home from dinner, my wife was driving our daughter again, the same incident occurred, 6/26/09. Our car is sitting at the dealership now, and we’re waiting on a response as to what the issue is and the suggested repair.
This makes three times in less than a year. This is the primary vehicle for my wife, and she has our daughter with her most all of the time. In my book three strikes and you’re out.
My primary concern is the safety and security of my wife and daughter. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with Hyundai on this?
#141 of 186 Re: Throttle Safety Issue [jhsmith007]
Jun 29, 2009 (11:30 am)
what state are you in and when did you purchase the vehicle?
#143 of 186 Hyundai 2010 Veracruz Hesitation
Jan 13, 2011 (9:24 am)
The day after I took possesion of my 2010 Veracruz (7-8-10) I was pulling out of a parking lot, press on the gad and nothing happened...it did not happen again until the following week.I took the Veracruz in the next week and Hyundai could not find any problem. It happened again intermittently over the next few weeks. Hyundai kept the Veracruz for 4-5 days but could not duplicate the problem. I asked for a different Veracruz but they would not. The hesitation problem at low speeds continues but I'm exasperated!!!As long as hyundai can not duplicate the hesitation..the problem does not exist in their mind...anyone have a similar problem...I can't get it fixed and Hyundai won't replace the Veracruz...they can keep their 100,000 mile warranty and this 2010 Veracruz...HELP!!!
#144 of 186 Re: Hyundai 2010 Veracruz Hesitation [kenneth46]
Jan 14, 2011 (8:10 am)
That isnt hesitation, thats incommunication between the go pedal and the throttle. You just need to be persistent, they cant fix what they cant find. It could be a faulty component of the pedal assembly. Make notes of when it happens, and mark down the miles, eventually you will have a pattern they can go by, and then take it in and demand a loaner until they find and fix the issue. Try a different dealer if you get no results. Electrical gremlins are the worse problems any mechanic, from Kia to Mercedes, has to deal with. Drive by wire exasperates the issues. There is no longer a mechanical link between the pedal and the throttle body, it is all done by computer and electric motors. Either the computer isnt seeing the signal from the pedal, or the throttle motor is hanging or not seeing the input from the computer.
#145 of 186 Re: Problems with the Hyundai Veracruz acceleration [p885]
Jul 22, 2011 (1:25 pm)
Hyundai Technical Service Bulletin, May 2009, Engine, Number 09-EM-002, CVVT oil control valve inspection.
This will cause hesitation from stop, bogging down & etc. There is one on each cylinder bank.