Article Comments - 2007- '08 Compact Crossovers Comparison Test

47 messages, Last post on Oct 09, 2007 at 5:06 AM

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What is this discussion about? Honda CR-V, Nissan Rogue, Toyota RAV4, Mitsubishi Outlander, Car Comparisons, SUV

2007-'08 Compact Crossovers Comparison Test - These small crossovers are evolving into niches just as distinct as you'll find in the car market. There are practical ones, sporting ones, tough ones and comfortable ones. We've brought together the 2007 Honda CR-V, 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander, 2008 Nissan Rogue and 2007 Toyota RAV4. All share a gestalt of efficiency and social responsibility, yet each has a unique set of qualities and options. (more)

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#5 of 47 . by chelentano Sep 10, 2007 (9:46 pm)
As you could see above, the consumers rate t Outlander higher vs. t RAV4. They do it consistently on all three major auto sites: MSN Autos, Yahoo Autos and Edmunds.
#6 of 47 The Lockable all-wheel drive by chelentano Sep 10, 2007 (10:13 pm)
And why the Edmunds "experts" say that The Lockable all-wheel drive system is not available on Outlander?: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=122496/pageId=130- 064 Then what this Outlander's knob is for: Replies to this message: typesix (Sep 11, 2007 7:10 am) chelentano (Sep 11, 2007 9:55 am) dodo2 (Sep 11, 2007 7:27 pm)
#7 of 47 Re: The Lockable all-wheel drive [chelentano] by typesix Sep 11, 2007 (7:10 am)
Replying to: chelentano (Sep 10, 2007 10:13 pm) The comparison states that the Outlander lock is not a lock but a rwd bias awd setting. Replies to this message: chelentano (Sep 11, 2007 9:55 am) dodo2 (Sep 11, 2007 7:27 pm)
#8 of 47 Re: The Lockable all-wheel drive [typesix] by chelentano Sep 11, 2007 (9:55 am)
Replying to: typesix (Sep 11, 2007 7:10 am) May be they are talking about this. Does not seem like a big deal and it could be damaged: "For manual transmissions, there is a center differential lock button on the dashboard that manually locks the front and rear axles. Toyota recommends that it only be used only in difficult situations, and that the center differential can be damaged if used improperly." [RAV4 FAQ]
#9 of 47 Re: The Lockable all-wheel drive [typesix] by dodo2 Sep 11, 2007 (7:27 pm)
Replying to: typesix (Sep 11, 2007 7:10 am) I've lost my hope to read an accurate review on Edmunds. It's incredible how they don't have a clue about the cars they are supposed to compare. The 4WD Lock option in the RAV4 is as "lockable" as in the Outlander and it works similarly. There is no traditional fixed 50:50 split in the "Lock" position. The torque distribution is still variable, electronically controlled, depending on the driving conditions. However, it disengages above 25 mph where in the Outlander it stays active until the driver changes the position of the knob. I think Edmunds should start paying us for educating its editors. The many flaws in this comparo really makes the ranking irrelevant.
#10 of 47 Re: Disappointing [mfletou1] by cbmorton Sep 12, 2007 (4:15 am)
Replying to: mfletou1 (Sep 10, 2007 5:05 pm) The RAV4 and Santa Fe have already been written about in another Edmunds comparison test: "Small All-Wheel-Drive SUVs". Replies to this message: steve_ (Sep 12, 2007 8:04 am)
#11 of 47 Re: Disappointing [cbmorton] by steve_ HOST Sep 12, 2007 (8:04 am)
Replying to: cbmorton (Sep 12, 2007 4:15 am) Next month we're going to have a feature comparing the comparison articles. The current crossover count is 95 make/models btw, of which 79 are lumped in with SUVs. (link)
#12 of 47 Where Are The Americans? by jackdev73 Sep 12, 2007 (1:25 pm)
It's interesting how the new Ford Escape, Mercury Mariner or Saturn Vue were not included in this comparison. Could it be because one of them might just have made number one? Edmunds couldnt have an American win now could they. Replies to this message: tidester (Sep 12, 2007 7:32 pm) rf600r (Sep 13, 2007 2:56 pm) tidester (Sep 13, 2007 3:27 pm) and 1 more...
#13 of 47 Unbelievable by lrobb Sep 12, 2007 (6:45 pm)
You've hit the nail on the head, Jack... No Escape, no Vue, no Torrent, and no Nitro. Cmon Edmunds. There's no excuse for this.
#14 of 47 Re: Where Are The Americans? [jackdev73] by tidester HOST Sep 12, 2007 (7:32 pm)
Replying to: jackdev73 (Sep 12, 2007 1:25 pm) It's interesting how the new Ford Escape, Mercury Mariner or Saturn Vue were not included in this comparison. Read about them here: Article Comments: 2008 Ford Escape Limited AWD Full Test Article Comments - 2008 Mercury Mariner Hybrid Full Test Article Comments - Full Test: 2008 Saturn Vue XR Could it be because one of them might just have made number one? That's silly. It was a ranking of a set of four vehicles out of collection of four vehicles. Nothing more, nothing less. tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper Replies to this message: rf600r (Sep 13, 2007 2:56 pm) tidester (Sep 13, 2007 3:27 pm) rf600r (Sep 13, 2007 4:42 pm)