Last post on Oct 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM
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#16 of 23 99 Dakota Vibration issues
Dec 10, 2009 (8:58 am)
#17 of 23 99 Dakota Vibration issues
Dec 10, 2009 (8:58 am)
i am experirencing a vibration at approx 15 mph, that gets much worse approching 55 mph, but then is not so bad on highway speeds, notincing vibration in the steering column, the cab, and odd sounds froms the exhaust,
any ideas what could cause this?
#18 of 23 front end vibe...not wheel bearing
Jan 17, 2010 (5:58 am)
i have a 2002 4wd 3.9 xcab dakota...it has developed a vibration at highway speeds that sounds like a growling noise and starts pulling to the left....i figured it was a lf wheel bearing... i replaced the lf bearing but did not solve the problem..it is hard to hear any noise or play in the front end while jacked up or at low speeds(it does have a slight pull to left at low speeds) the truck only has 50k never been off roading...only use 4wd in the snow....any ideas before i bring to dealer and get bent over??
#19 of 23 Re: front end vibe...not wheel bearing [shome92]
Jan 17, 2010 (9:39 am)
Maybe this is no help, but last year, I noticed a growling noise like you describe, and went to several mechanics who all said it was probably a bad front wheel bearings, so I replaced them all. No improvement.
Then I went to another garage, and the mechanic said it was the differential (my pickup is a 2 wheel-drive 1990) and he showed me that when he popped a rubber stopper from the differential case, put a screwdriver into the oil and took it out, the oil seemed to have very fine metal particles suspended in it. He said it could be the carrier bearings. I had no idea what a carrier bearing was at the time.
After much worry, I opened the differential cover and somehow got the big ring gear and its associated carrier bearings out, and sure-enough, the bearings were shot.
I bought new bearings, and removed the old ones, and installed the new ones (I can't remember if the carrier bearings had to be removed and pressed-on by a machine shop -- I find that pain has no memory), put the whole mess back in, did my best to adjust gear "lash", replaced the rear axle bearings, replaced the differential cover, put in synthetic oil, and the growling noise was gone.
It probably took me a month to get from the point of going to mechanics to ask about the noise to getting the pickup back on the road. Luckily, I have other transportation.
#20 of 23 Re: front end vibe...not wheel bearing [tjfitz]
Jan 17, 2010 (11:46 am)
thank you very much for the info,,that would make sense,,i think i will check both front and rear differentials to see if there is any metal in the gear oil,,,the only thing that makes me wonder is that i have a pull to the left also while driving at highway speeds
#21 of 23 Re: front end vibe...not wheel bearing [shome92]
Jan 17, 2010 (2:21 pm)
I don't know if differential problems could cause steering pull, but maybe? It seemed to me, when I had my pickup's rear wheels up on stands and the differential cover off, that turning either wheel alone caused the differential's planetary gears to rotate and the other wheel to turn backwards. If I had the engine running and the transmission in gear, I could probably have watched what happened to the differential when both wheels were turning and I put a drag on one of them. Being a devout coward, I didn't do that.
I just found a fascinating video that dates from the 1930s, and really gets into the basics of the differential. If you start it at 1 minute 50 seconds, you can cut-out a long sequence of motorcycle cops doing acrobatics in formation!
There's a good Internet site that names many possible causes for steering pull at http://www.aa1car.com/library/steerpul.htm
#23 of 23 35-50 MPH vibration HELP!!
Oct 26, 2010 (4:26 pm)
I Have a 2000 Dakota Quad Cab, 4.7L 4X4 120500 miles.
In my earlier post the advice I was given by the dealer and one transmission shop was that my torque converter was slipping during interlock. The problem was more noticeable after my tires got balanced. When truck in neutral or at 35-50 mph, slight vibration. Now in an attempt to get a third opinion, one shop advised that I have a clogged fuel injector. They claimed computer showed, pass side bank was running a little rich. He concluded the torque converter was not bad after getting the truck to breakdown or sputter without the interlock engaged at any speed as long as motor rpms were below 2500. Now I can feel it too. He advised STP fuel injector cleaner at a high concentrate and blow it out on the freeway. After doing just that with no change in ride. After that he felt a clogged injector or failing injector was the problem. I bought two injectors and he put them in, no change, he moved them and still no change.
**Please note that during all this I have no engine code.
He also replaced the TPS, no fix. Another mechanic felt that one of the coils might be breaking down. I bought one and put it in and test drove it in all 8 positions, no fix.
To date, the symptoms and attempted fixes have been as follows:
First felt vibration at 35-45 mph
Started feeling it more, went to dealer.
Drove a week and began to feel more noticeably.
After fuel injector cleaner, no fix.
Transmission fluids slightly dirty, had them change it.
Old worn plugs, changed myself with exact replacements and proper gap settings (0.40).
Tires out of balance, Balanced them.
Flash Updates for ECM and TCM, updated them.
Went home $450 lighter, still not fixed.
Torque Converter slipping during interlock. Both stated by dealer and first tranny shop.
or possible bad TCM (no codes)
not torque converter.
Clogged injector, ran truck hard with double dose of STP, no fix.
Bought 2 injectors and moved them around, no fix.
Possible bad or faulty coil, bought one and played ring around the motor, no fix.
Trustworthy Tranny shop states no way it can be torque converter, says it must be tires. With truck off ground and wheels dangling, truck shook on lift, just like on road??
New Shop can't find any problem, then suggest rear diff service.
Finds broken clutch plate and rebuilds. $850
Problem unchanged and now shop says it is the tires.
Buy new tires, $650, balance two times and road force balance one time and problems still there.
After all of the above (over $2000) and hours and hours (priceless) of driving and thinking it feels like an out of round tire. A 35-50mph feels like a slight wobble or hop (tires are good and true and no bent rims) in the rear of the truck.
Currently I'm out over $2000 and slightly better than started but not completely gone.
No OBD codes.
Could this be a driveshaft bent? Feels to slow and wobbly, not high speed vibration.
Thanks for your help,