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Re: [kyfdx] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 14, 2008 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 14, 2008 7:46 am)

I WANT to stay busy driving is my problem. I like that-- "I'm in command of this fighter plane!" feeling
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Re: [Mr_Shiftright] by kdshapiro
Oct 14, 2008 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 14, 2008 7:35 am)

The infrared sensor is in the mirror, not in the windshield.
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Re: [kdshapiro] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 14, 2008 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Oct 14, 2008 8:22 am)

That's true, but the rain-sensing windshield is still different.. Something to do with the spot that the infrared is aimed at..
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BMW Gadgetry by jmaroun
Oct 14, 2008 (10:14 am)
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BMW's auto windshield wiper is neat, but should you turn it on in normal mode (non auto sensing), it's a non trivial experience turning the darn thing off.
 
I find BMW's refrigerated compartment under the arm rest some what quirky. Such a small volume is nearly useless. They should either increase usable volume ( I guess make it deeper) or eliminate the thing alltogether.
 
After 3 years with BMW's fancy turn signal invention (started in 06 models), I still fall victim to an induced back and forth left/right juggling of the lights. It's very embarressing since people behind you can see the lights. Still I like the idea but they've got to improve the interface.
 
A glove compartment that could fit at least the car's user-manual, registration, and insurance documents would be appreciated. BMW should either enlargen its glove compartment or shrink its elaboratly dressed German styled user manual.
 
With my 06 330, I enjoyed the compass meter embedded in the mirror. I also enjoyed the electronic folding mirror. This time however, with my new 335i , I've opted to live without these items that come with the $2000! Premium package. Walmart sells a $15 electronic compass that mounts smartly on your mirror. Life isn't so bad without the folding mirrors..and BMW's black leatherete is quite a good, if not superior, substitute for its leather seating.
 
A really cool feature in a BMW these days, IMO, is the cruise control. It has a most natural and pleasing electro-mechanical interface. I especially like how the cruise control maintains itself while I down or upshift (6spd manual). Very well done! Unfortunately, most gadgets in the car lack such brilliant enginering grace.
 
Example Primo:
Unfortunately,... I found BMW's navigation / iDrive interface too cumbersome and most importantly, too intrussive to the driving experience. The thing doesn't shut up. The screen is always on..even when blank, it dominates the cabin. Such devices should hide themselves away or be way in the background IMO. That's why I feel a portable Navigation device like a Garmin would be more effective, much cheaper, and less distracting from the experience (you can turn it off and tuck it away). BMW has a long way to go to convince otherwise.
 
Joseph
San Diego
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Re: BMW Gadgetry [jmaroun] by kdshapiro
Oct 14, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: jmaroun (Oct 14, 2008 10:14 am)

BMW's auto windshield wiper is neat, but should you turn it on in normal mode (non auto sensing), it's a non trivial experience turning the darn thing off.
 
You might find it a non-trivial experience, I didn't. A quick flick of the stalk does it.
 
After 3 years with BMW's fancy turn signal invention (started in 06 models), I still fall victim to an induced back and forth left/right juggling of the lights. It's very embarressing since people behind you can see the lights. Still I like the idea but they've got to improve the interface.
 
Took me two turns to get used to.
 
With my 06 330, I enjoyed the compass meter embedded in the mirror. I also enjoyed the electronic folding mirror. This time however, with my new 335i , I've opted to live without these items that come with the $2000! Premium package. Walmart sells a $15 electronic compass that mounts smartly on your mirror. Life isn't so bad without the folding mirrors..and BMW's black leatherete is quite a good, if not superior, substitute for its leather seating.
 
The leatherette is in no way superior to the leather. The leather has a feel, touch and smell the 'ette' can't come close to.
 
Unfortunately,... I found BMW's navigation / iDrive interface too cumbersome and most importantly, too intrussive to the driving experience.
 
I was able to grasp the most important functions, while driving the car. It wasn't rocket science. What was really bothering me, is that it took me a while to figure out how to turn off the seat heater from idrive, even though the heat icon was clearly visible to me. :blush.
 
The thing doesn't shut up. The screen is always on..even when blank, it dominates the cabin. Such devices should hide themselves away or be way in the background IMO
 
I can't remember which model, (135, 335, 550, X5, X6, 535, 650 or 750, missed the M3 and Alpina), did what. But I seem to remember BMW is not the only manufacturer to provide a 24X7 nav screen. But I really liked idrive with nav, I paired my BT phone to the unit while driving without a problem.
 
I like the clean upfettered look of the BMW dash, it was a smart move to stick all this stuff into i-drive.
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Re: BMW Gadgetry [jmaroun] by carnaught
Oct 14, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: jmaroun (Oct 14, 2008 10:14 am)

Unfortunately,... I found BMW's navigation / iDrive interface too cumbersome and most importantly, too intrussive to the driving experience. The thing doesn't shut up. The screen is always on..even when blank, it dominates the cabin. Such devices should hide themselves away or be way in the background IMO. That's why I feel a portable Navigation device like a Garmin would be more effective, much cheaper, and less distracting from the experience (you can turn it off and tuck it away). BMW has a long way to go to convince otherwise.
  

 
In contrast, I like the screen to be on all the time. You can change it from showing the nav.map, to the sound system info., to traffic info., etc. If I didn't like it I wouldn't have gotten it. iDrive keeps getting better with each iteration update.
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Re: BMW Gadgetry [carnaught] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 14, 2008 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Oct 14, 2008 12:59 pm)

You're right iDrive has gotten "better"....well, less worse at any rate. Maybe someday I'll even grow to like it.
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Re: BMW Gadgetry [Mr_Shiftright] by circlew
Oct 17, 2008 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 14, 2008 1:24 pm)

Maybe someday I'll even grow to like it.
 
Only if you could yell at it and it would listen!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: BMW Gadgetry [circlew] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 17, 2008 (5:17 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Oct 17, 2008 3:01 pm)

That and a dip stick.
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Re: BMW Gadgetry [jmaroun] by richardga73
Oct 18, 2008 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: jmaroun (Oct 14, 2008 10:14 am)

imaroun, the atlanta dealers said all the leatherette models that were available were sport suspensions. Just the luck of the draw. With the rft's I dont want the spt. suspension. It is harsh and noisy enough, then add the dumbass rft's it gets too much. Did you find a leatherette with normal suspension? Maybe the overall answer to the harsh and noisy rft's is to get a normal suspension. If enough people do that maybe they will drop the rft's.I personally like a stripped car with the biggest engine. Its lighter. I dont need a computer on wheels.

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