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Ah, okay... that's where I got confused... looks like they'll be offering the diesel in wagon form. Though, even that, I'm not sure if it's coming state-side. On the plus side.. the diesel will have gobs of torque and should get good fuel economy. Downside is that my limited experience with driving diesels is that the redline way too soon (4-5K rpms). On top of that, I read that they are only offering the diesel in automatic anyhow. When I'm ready, I'll have to look at the 328i wagon (and likely the Audi wagon as well).
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 27, 2008 9:24 am) The nerve of BMW raising their prices. Thank goodness every other car company on the face of the planet is consumer friendly and *NEVER, NEVER* raised their prices. |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 27, 2008 9:24 am)  http://www.topix.com/forum/autos/bmw-335i/T0OJ7C7DMQJ7ERRUF/p8#lastPost Price hikes are toleratable.. known reliablity issues spanning several years are not.  I hope my 08 wont have any issues when it arrives. Mine fingers are crossed.  Joseph San Diego -------------------------------------------------------------- #25 of 32 by jmaroun Aug 27, 2008 (10:24 am) Save | Reply The 09 335i offers little improvement for its huge price hike IMO. I figure the average configured car will cost 2-4k MORE than a similarly equipped 08. And for what? An updated i-Drive?? I'd rather get a stand alone garmin which works better and is portable. The front and rear facia modifications are of frivolous significance, lacking bold enough initiative to create any meaningful effect. I'd argue the changes have moved backwards, style wise as well as value/$ wise, in some respects. Making the logic 7 sound system an option makes the G37 all the more attractive from a value/$ stand point; not that I particularly recommend the G37. The move for shadowline trim instead of chrome has not been warmly welcomed by those who've realized the asthetic effect. Chrome trim, I thought, was a beautiful added feature available to the 335i over the 328's standard shadow line trim. I've always lamented on how the E9x M3 only comes with shadow line trim. Deleting chrome trim for 335is with sports package represents to me, poor judgment and an attempt to decrease manufacturing costs. Borrowing the coupe's rims for the sedan is another plain example of weak imaginitive marketing. Such a move reduces the unique styling of the sedan. I think buyers see right through the hype. They are obvious attempts to increase profit margins on the cheap at a cost to loyal bmw consumers. All in all the 335i still represents a superb design effort worth every extra penny. People will buy the car en masse. It's just that these days, those extra pennies hurt. So, I'd highly recommend getting an 08 now while it's still possible. Not only will you get a price significantly under MSRP, but you'll get great 0.9% financing and you won't have to bare the brunt of a significant price hike for practically no benefit. Joseph San Diego |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 31, 2008 1:26 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Aug 31, 2008 6:30 pm) 
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 31, 2008 1:26 pm) ...and you'll also get a car already a year old... I dunno, seems like you would be more pleased with an Infiniti, given all the shortcomings you seem to have with the BMW. Z |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 31, 2008 1:26 pm) |
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Replying to: sunilb (Aug 29, 2008 1:21 pm) Which Audi wagon are you looking at?
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Replying to: motoworf (Sep 02, 2008 8:37 am) |
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Regarding exterior color paint, black, white, and blue suit my asthetic tastes equally. I decided therefore, to base my choice on utility. At first I thought the optimal choice was obvious. Everyone knows that white absorbs less light and thus would keep interior cabin temperature cooler than black. Alas, a white 08 335i sedan was unavailable in my favorite configuration: manual with sports package. A case of bad luck. I was forced to choose the very opposite color. Black! After some thought however, I've realized my luck wasn't as bad as I'd thought. Especially considering that a 335i's engine has a known tendency to run a "little" on the hot side. A black car, better than any other color, should actually help dissipate the most engine heat. This is due to black's inherently superior infrared conductivity. Interior cabin temperature is merely transient..that is AC climate control corrects it in a matter of seconds no matter what color your car is. Hot black sheet metal will dissipate heat absorbed from the sun, when moving air pass over it, faster than white or silver sheet metal. Heat from a running or recently turned off engine, far out weighs solar power that shines on a car. Therefore.. it probably is better to have a black car if one's interest is help keep its engine coolest. An engine that runs cooler not only performs better, but in the long haul will be more reliable. Of course this is just speculative reason and I have no idea how significant a car's color would have on the net temperature of a running, or recently idle, engine. I suppose if one had access to a data-base of automobile over-heating reports, one could check to see if black cars fared better than say silver or white cars. That would be strong evidence supporting my above speculations. Empirical evidence on this would be interesting. If anyone knows of any, please share. Especially regarding the 335i. Joseph San Diego |
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