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Replying to: sunilb (Aug 25, 2008 8:30 pm) |
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The 09 335i offers little improvement for its huge price hike IMO. I figure the average configured car will cost 2-4k MORE than a similarly equipped 08. And for what? An updated i-Drive?? I'd rather get a stand alone garmin which works better and is portable. The front and rear facia modifications are of frivolous significance, lacking bold enough initiative to create any meaningful effect. I'd argue the changes have moved backwards, style wise as well as value/$ wise, in some respects. Making the logic 7 sound system an option makes the G37 all the more attractive from a value/$ stand point; not that I particularly recommend the G37. The move for shadowline trim instead of chrome has not been warmly welcomed by those who've realized the asthetic effect. Chrome trim, I thought, was a beautiful added feature available to the 335i over the 328's standard shadow line trim. I've always lamented on how the E9x M3 only comes with shadow line trim. Deleting chrome trim for 335is with sports package represents to me, poor judgment and an attempt to decrease manufacturing costs. Borrowing the coupe's rims for the sedan is another plain example of weak imaginitive marketing. Such a move reduces the unique styling of the sedan. I think buyers see right through the hype. They are obvious attempts to increase profit margins on the cheap at a cost to loyal bmw consumers. All in all the 335i still represents a superb design effort worth every extra penny. People will buy the car en masse. It's just that these days, those extra pennies hurt. So, I'd highly recommend getting an 08 now while it's still possible. Not only will you get a price significantly under MSRP, but you'll get great 0.9% financing and you won't have to bare the brunt of a significant price hike for practically no benefit. Joseph San Diego |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 27, 2008 9:24 am) I figure the average configured car will cost 2-4k MORE than a similarly equipped 08." Well, I think the exterior improvements are great. They fixed exactly what I thought was wrong with the old sedan. The new front end looks wider and more aggressive, and the tail looks wider and less "fat-faced." I especially think the more coupe-like tail lights with LEDs are a big improvement. As for pricing, according to the BMWNA Dealer Bulletin, the base price has increased $800, Cold Weather Package is up $150, and Sport Package is up $350. Park Distance Control is up $350, but now has both front and rear sensors. No price increases listed for Premium Package, Navigation, or iDrive. Even if you check EVERY option in the book, it's impossible to pay $3000 more than a 2008, let alone $4000. For an "average configured car," $1000 - $1500 is more realistic, and well within reason for a model year increase - even without a mid-cycle refresh. "shadowline trim instead of chrome has not been warmly welcomed by those who've realized the asthetic effect...Chrome trim, I thought, was a beautiful added feature available to the 335i over the 328's standard shadow line trim." You mean there's a community of BMW enthusiasts who are publicly expressing their dislike of shadowline trim?!?! Seriously though, you know, historically, BMW has used shadowline trim as an UPGRADE over chrome to signify a special car (M cars). Also, I'm sure you know that the 335i doesn't have "chrome" trim - it has "matte aluminum" trim. You must also know that the 328i doesn't have "shadowline" trim - it has "matte black" trim. "Deleting chrome trim for 335is with sports package represents to me, poor judgment and an attempt to decrease manufacturing costs." Actually, "High Gloss Shadowline" trim is the costliest trim BMW uses: Matte black trim (328i) - part # 51137117243/4 - $121.64 per side Chrome trim (330i) - part # 51137121235/6 - $157.36 per side High gloss shadowline trim (Optional) - part # 51137906917/8 - $218.74 per side Well, at least you know you can have chrome trim on whatever E90 you might decide to purchase. Just $300 and a rubber mallet is all it takes...
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 27, 2008 3:30 pm) The $800 increase is what I was lead to believe as well. |
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 27, 2008 3:30 pm) I think the added bling also adds  10 hp. Not too shabby, if you ask me... |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 27, 2008 9:24 am) The wheels on the 2009 335 sedan with upgraded 18's do look to be the same as the 2008 335 coupe with upgraded 18's. That is a good thing as they are FAR FAR superior to the 2008 sedan wheels. The wheels on the 2009 335 sedan with 17 inch wheels look to be different than the coupe's 17 inchers. I'm getting the 17's. I love the new 17's. The 17's on the 2008 sedan were terrible for what a 335 sedan with sports package should have. Check this link for pics of the 2009 wheels. The wheel with more spokes is the 17's and are not the wheels on the 335 coupe. http://www.motortrend.com/photo_gallery/112_0807_2009_bmw_3_series_gallery/detai- l_photos.html |
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Ah, okay... that's where I got confused... looks like they'll be offering the diesel in wagon form. Though, even that, I'm not sure if it's coming state-side. On the plus side.. the diesel will have gobs of torque and should get good fuel economy. Downside is that my limited experience with driving diesels is that the redline way too soon (4-5K rpms). On top of that, I read that they are only offering the diesel in automatic anyhow. When I'm ready, I'll have to look at the 328i wagon (and likely the Audi wagon as well).
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 27, 2008 9:24 am) The nerve of BMW raising their prices. Thank goodness every other car company on the face of the planet is consumer friendly and *NEVER, NEVER* raised their prices. |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 27, 2008 9:24 am)  http://www.topix.com/forum/autos/bmw-335i/T0OJ7C7DMQJ7ERRUF/p8#lastPost Price hikes are toleratable.. known reliablity issues spanning several years are not.  I hope my 08 wont have any issues when it arrives. Mine fingers are crossed.  Joseph San Diego -------------------------------------------------------------- #25 of 32 by jmaroun Aug 27, 2008 (10:24 am) Save | Reply The 09 335i offers little improvement for its huge price hike IMO. I figure the average configured car will cost 2-4k MORE than a similarly equipped 08. And for what? An updated i-Drive?? I'd rather get a stand alone garmin which works better and is portable. The front and rear facia modifications are of frivolous significance, lacking bold enough initiative to create any meaningful effect. I'd argue the changes have moved backwards, style wise as well as value/$ wise, in some respects. Making the logic 7 sound system an option makes the G37 all the more attractive from a value/$ stand point; not that I particularly recommend the G37. The move for shadowline trim instead of chrome has not been warmly welcomed by those who've realized the asthetic effect. Chrome trim, I thought, was a beautiful added feature available to the 335i over the 328's standard shadow line trim. I've always lamented on how the E9x M3 only comes with shadow line trim. Deleting chrome trim for 335is with sports package represents to me, poor judgment and an attempt to decrease manufacturing costs. Borrowing the coupe's rims for the sedan is another plain example of weak imaginitive marketing. Such a move reduces the unique styling of the sedan. I think buyers see right through the hype. They are obvious attempts to increase profit margins on the cheap at a cost to loyal bmw consumers. All in all the 335i still represents a superb design effort worth every extra penny. People will buy the car en masse. It's just that these days, those extra pennies hurt. So, I'd highly recommend getting an 08 now while it's still possible. Not only will you get a price significantly under MSRP, but you'll get great 0.9% financing and you won't have to bare the brunt of a significant price hike for practically no benefit. Joseph San Diego |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 31, 2008 1:26 pm)
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